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otter1 08-27-2021 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Slowhawk (Post 3286303)
cool story, post it to your anti-vax and flat-earth Facebook groups, not here. Has nothing to do with the townhall

This isn't flat earth stuff. So you're saying a world renowned virologist who won the Nobel prize (among many other awards in his field) is nuts? Someone mentioned a vaccine mandate, so I responded with facts from experts on why it would be a huge mistake.

69fastback 08-27-2021 09:40 AM

It’s of no concern anymore, anyways. Covid news just went the way of the 737 Max. Consider it wiped out.

putzin 08-27-2021 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by otter1 (Post 3286370)
This isn't flat earth stuff. So you're saying a world renowned virologist who won the Nobel prize (among many other awards in his field) is nuts? Someone mentioned a vaccine mandate, so I responded with facts from experts on why it would be a huge mistake.

Agree or not this thing is about perception these days, not the science (not even sure whose science to listen to anymore). And what's better, death or a country full of newly impoverished people? Thanks for the input, as previously stated the back and forth isn't needed, I was merely asking what our company stance was.

I'm personally pro 'do what's best for you and yours', whatever those consequences might be. You can't mandate what's best for 8 billion people. Impossible situation, continue with life.

BOL

SSlow 08-27-2021 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3285516)
Bottom line, they can’t throw money at it to fix it, it isn’t working. When someone asked why we are the only ones having the staffing issues, he balked back that everyone was having these issues.

I don't have the data readily at hand, but I saw a graph showing the net migration to South Florida over the past two years. Broward county was flat and Miami-Dade had actually lost .7% since 2019. I know for a fact that there are throngs of wealthy folks moving here from out of state, so somebody has to be leaving for the net population growth to be nil. I think a lot of those on the lower end of the income spectrum working in the tourism/hospitality industry decided to GTFO when the stuff hit the fan last year.

Every single small business owner I know down here can't find people to work in the minimum wage to $15/hr range. A chunk of that demographic moved out of the area and has been replaced by the six figure "work from anywhere" crowd and now we can't find people to work at the local coffee shop. I think this is big part of why FLL is such a disaster on the labor front.

TransWorld 08-27-2021 03:36 PM

What I have seen in affluent suburbs north of Dallas is difficulty finding people wanting to work for $15 / hour. We have seen a big increase in population.

High schoolers do not want to work for such a low wage (partly that their six figure earning parents having enough money for the family. They can buy their kids a car.)

In the recent past, supplemental unemployment payments and the eviction moratorium has made it easier for those without a job to get by.

Of course, pre-Covid, we had an unemployment rate of sub 2%.

Just perspective in another booming area, where people have been moving.

GrumpyCaptain 08-27-2021 05:05 PM

Who needs people to make coffee anyways. Anyone tried the coffee robot in Austin airport?

Every time I see a new gate agent learning to drive a jet bridge I fantasize about them being automated. Honestly I just wonder why they don’t practice on a parked overnight plane instead of making us late…

CincoDeMayo 08-27-2021 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain (Post 3286637)
Who needs people to make coffee anyways. Anyone tried the coffee robot in Austin airport?

Every time I see a new gate agent learning to drive a jet bridge I fantasize about them being automated. Honestly I just wonder why they don’t practice on a parked overnight plane instead of making us late…

Self docking parking.

I wonder when spirit will start doing single ramper parking like some other airlines do

MCDUmanipulator 08-27-2021 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3286642)
Self docking parking.

I wonder when spirit will start doing single ramper parking like some other airlines do

we have started some places.

TrojanCMH 08-27-2021 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3286642)
Self docking parking.

I wonder when spirit will start doing single ramper parking like some other airlines do


Makes sense, if the painted safety zone is clear why do we need wing walkers? What are you going to hit?

TrojanCMH 08-27-2021 05:43 PM

Town hall
 

Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3286607)
What I have seen in affluent suburbs north of Dallas is difficulty finding people wanting to work for $15 / hour. We have seen a big increase in population.

High schoolers do not want to work for such a low wage (partly that their six figure earning parents having enough money for the family. They can buy their kids a car.)

In the recent past, supplemental unemployment payments and the eviction moratorium has made it easier for those without a job to get by.

Of course, pre-Covid, we had an unemployment rate of sub 2%.

Just perspective in another booming area, where people have been moving.


Just saw a sign today where I live offering $18 an hour to work at a Sheetz gas station and it said they offered medical benefits. If I was given the choice of throwing bags in the Florida heat or sitting in an air conditioned gas station and ringing up snacks and cigarettes I’d probably chose the later.

I also think they’re dealing with a sort of snowball effect with the lack of under wing crew that do show up working twice as hard making it more likely they call off or just quit all together.

Either way Spirit and other businesses will have to adjust to this by increasing pay and benefits.


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