And those wing walkers are worthless anyways. How many times have you spotted something side the safety area while the wing walker stands there clueless

Invest in red paint for safety area and 12’ mirrors mounted at the nose, we can park ourselves. If I can get my car wheel on the car wash track using an overhead mirror, I sure as heck can park a plane with a mirror

Or pulling into a tight gate, EWR and PHL stand out to me, and they’re not looking at the wings.

I personally like having someone else with the liability of obstruction clearance. Looking or not you can always say the safety area was clear (if it was) and you had three marshallers guiding you

Still need people to throw the bags anyway

I completely agree. The jobs we are offering suck terribly and if you want people to do them you have to pay up these days. The alternative is air conditioned and you park out front for the same or better pay.

They need to adapt and I’m not sure why they cannot figure that out.

That’s really so sad. Aside from chick-Fil-a I never see teens working anywhere. That’s on the parents though. I don’t care how much money the family has the kids need to learn the value of a dollar.

Kids are involved in too much crap now that their parents say they don’t have time to work or their job is to get good grades or be excellent at sports. GMAFB.

I’ve also heard it’s lack of quality middle class jobs that has pushed adults out of good union manufacturing type jobs to working several jobs once claimed by teens.

Now however, post covid no one seems to want to work the teen jobs for some reason.

working at a gas station? Yeah no thanks! Not worth the extra money to get robbed or shot in the face at 2AM...I’ve watched too many murder mystery shows or news reports. Those places get hot up all the time.

Flown in Europe, Asia, Middle East, nearly all airports have automatic docking guidance and even in the tight corner gates it works great and lasts a long time. Eliminates waiting for the staring off into space wing walkers…..

BUUUUT…. The ever annoying light sticks held 1 inch from each other is replaced by the radar distance on the parking getting hung up at .1 meter before the <STOP> is displayed and the jet bridge driver won’t approach so you have to goose it.

I guess it depends what kind of neighborhood the gas station is in, but either way that isn’t the point, the point is people can chose to do things that pay the same or more and not have to deal with everything that comes with being a ramper. They deserve more pay than the guy flipping burgers or selling cigarettes and right now they’re often making less.

Rampers you don’t have to deal with customers like the burger flipper or gas station attendant does. Not having to do the “welcome to Chick-fil-A, can I take your order” has value for a lot of people. As a teen I preferred jobs like landscaping vs customer service, just so I didn’t have to deal with the Karen’s of that time. I can only imagine it’s worse these days in dealing with people.

In the end, you have to pay what you have to to attract people. That’s as simple as that. No different than pilot pay

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I get it, retail and food service isn’t for everyone. Still not going to convince me that the work they’re doing isn’t more physically draining, dangerous, and comes with a ton more individual responsibility.

They deserve and need to be paid at a higher level than these other entry level hourly jobs. And when that happens the staffing issues will be sorted. Or we can just sit back and wait and hope that more people will apply for whatever it is they’re paying them now.