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Old 02-16-2022 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by minnymum
Not saying you’re wrong, but don’t understand out less overnights in MYR is possible or helps with IROPS when we do so many flights through there. I might just be dumb though.
Search for any non base to non base red eye in April and tell me how it's possible. Unless the LAS-LAX flights are going to be full of pilots and flight attendants it's nearly impossible to crew those flights on a 2 day pairing. Also if you're in IROP and your pilots are home and not at the hotel it's going to cost more to get them to fly. And Flight Attendants can only report to a base. Every IROP last year I've been available to answer a call but my phone isn't ringing. I don't think crew location is the issue. Should be a lucrative summer of this is the management answer.
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Old 02-16-2022 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
except commuters just got the shaft. More hotels for commuters between your 2 back to back 2 day pairings
I thought you had to have four days off between trips?
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Old 02-16-2022 | 07:35 PM
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You dont get 4 days off between 1 2 and 3 day trips….
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Old 02-17-2022 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by doubles
I thought you had to have four days off between trips?
It is 4 days off (pilot can waive down to 1) between blocks of days work. As long as the trips are back to back, it counts as a block. Blocks can’t be longer than 6 calendar days, before needing a calendar day off in base (can be waived by the pilot).
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Old 02-17-2022 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Blocks can’t be longer than 6 calendar days, before needing a calendar day off in base (can be waived by the pilot).
How do you still get your 30 off in 168 in that situation?
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Old 02-17-2022 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by emersonbiguns
How do you still get your 30 off in 168 in that situation?
CBA requires the 30 off to be in base - so you get 30 off, not just a day. per CBA cannot get 30 off on the road.
Actually, 117 - you can work 7 days in a row - the 30 off is measured from the START of that 7th day duty period.
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Old 02-17-2022 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cantflylist
CBA requires the 30 off to be in base - so you get 30 off, not just a day. per CBA cannot get 30 off on the road.
Actually, 117 - you can work 7 days in a row - the 30 off is measured from the START of that 7th day duty period.
One of the potholes in 117.
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Old 02-17-2022 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cantflylist
CBA requires the 30 off to be in base - so you get 30 off, not just a day. per CBA cannot get 30 off on the road.
Actually, 117 - you can work 7 days in a row - the 30 off is measured from the START of that 7th day duty period.
Originally Posted by symbian simian
One of the potholes in 117.
So all of this begs the question, how many pairings does NK build with 30+ hours of overnight and when was the last time anyone put together pairings to get 7 days straight of work (i.e. 7 duty periods)?
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Old 02-17-2022 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by emersonbiguns
So all of this begs the question, how many pairings does NK build with 30+ hours of overnight and when was the last time anyone put together pairings to get 7 days straight of work (i.e. 7 duty periods)?
The March FLL bid packet shows a grand total of 16 pairings with a 30+ hour layover out of 666 total pairings. 30 hour layovers aren't very common here like they were at the regionals, and in reality anything over 24 hours is rare as it triggers an extra 5 hours pay.
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Old 02-17-2022 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
The March FLL bid packet shows a grand total of 16 pairings with a 30+ hour layover out of 666 total pairings. 30 hour layovers aren't very common here like they were at the regionals, and in reality anything over 24 hours is rare as it triggers an extra 5 hours pay.
I just looked at our (F9) LAS pairings and there was one. So pretty rare here as well. I had never seen one so I assumed we didn't ever have them.
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