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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3463002)

For reference the ORD FO has been >50% green all month. I’ve dropped two trips this month and two last month.

I've been doing double or nothing on my schedule all summer long.

This month and next month are blood red in ACY. I couldn't even drop one day trip.

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Originally Posted by Desiflyer (Post 3466961)

Will spirit allow contract flying on the side ?

No they don't. If you do you're gambling.

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Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3467145)

This month and next month are blood red in ACY. I couldn't even drop one day trip.

LAS agrees with this statement.

How long does the grid have to be 75% green? 5 minutes? One day?

Still on reserve for a year?

What base would you pick as a noob commuting from a major midwestern city with only a small Spirit presence?

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Originally Posted by doubles (Post 3480493)

What base would you pick as a noob commuting from a major midwestern city with only a small Spirit presence?

Where ever you will be most senior, probably MCO/FLL maybe LAS depending on where you live in the Midwest.

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Originally Posted by doubles (Post 3480493)

Has to be 75% of the days green at the start of initial open time.

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Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3480602)

Has to be 75% of the days green at the start of initial open time.

Through the first run of open time? Or just for a millisecond?

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Originally Posted by doubles (Post 3480621)

Through the first run of open time? Or just for a millisecond?

Exactly what he said, after final schedule and right before IOT times. So before IOT opens, it has to be 75% green. What happens from there is pilots now control the grid with drops and adds, the Nic award calls this "pilot behavior". If senior pilots drop to start IOT, its red by the time it gets to mid pack, if the mid pack picks up trips, its green again by the junior for guys on the list for drops. Its not a process where the grid is green by 75% and anyone can drop anything without respect to the action a senior pilot took prior to your request.

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Originally Posted by doubles (Post 3480493)

Initial open time is seniority based. It’s open for a few days. No trades/drops/swaps are processed while it’s open. The grid has to be 75% green at the start, and won’t change, because nothing gets processed. After IOT closes, CS will start to process requests in seniority order. At some point requests will get denied because of the days being red, because more people drop in IOT than pick up. The day after the IOT awards are out, daily open time opens. Normally there will be a lot of trips in there and the grid will be somewhat red, at least in my seat/base/history. When DOT opens everyone will put a ton of requests in at the same time. Normally that will crash FliCa, and you will be angry. After a few days things stabilize, all weekends are red, and only trash trips are left in open time. Also, none of this matters to newhires. You can’t do anything until you are off reserve, and by the time that happens your shirt will be blue.