Spirit's Unrealistic Assumptions
05-19-2022 | 09:29 PM
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05-21-2022 | 08:05 AM
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05-21-2022 | 08:29 AM
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I see it as a sign that they are planning to drag the integration out as long as possible, and are waiting for the looming recession to solve their retention problem. They probably do assume they can achieve a cost-neutral JCBA in 2-3 years if they forecast a recession. If you believe a recession is likely, and you're thinking of making a move, the question becomes, do you stay and deal with stagnation and managed expectations here, or leave to get in line somewhere else and risk furlough. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a management response to the ALPA letter though.
05-21-2022 | 10:13 AM
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I see it as a sign that they are planning to drag the integration out as long as possible, and are waiting for the looming recession to solve their retention problem. They probably do assume they can achieve a cost-neutral JCBA in 2-3 years if they forecast a recession. If you believe a recession is likely, and you're thinking of making a move, the question becomes, do you stay and deal with stagnation and managed expectations here, or leave to get in line somewhere else and risk furlough. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a management response to the ALPA letter though.
05-21-2022 | 06:43 PM
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Its going to have to be another black swan event for there to be furloughs at the legacies. Granted. That could happen. We’ve had 3 in the last 21 years. But they’re retiring so many in the next 5-7 years that I could see hiring slowed down or even paused. I don’t think any of them can afford to go backwards in pilot size any time soon, and if it makes sense for them to do that the rest of the nation and world has probably fallen solidly on its a$$.
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05-22-2022 | 01:31 PM
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Absolutely believable. You have been here long enough to know this is Spirit. They didnt want to give us raises last time, they won't this time. They dont want to pay until they have ton pay, its that simple. Did anyone think Ted and Bendo would write a fat check tomorrow because we lost 20 FOs last month?
Ive said it over and over, a battle is coming. Just like the contacts before. If we aren't in one step and motivated, it will take 5 years, no doubt.
Ive said it over and over, a battle is coming. Just like the contacts before. If we aren't in one step and motivated, it will take 5 years, no doubt.
saying oh management has to do something about this... hoping to get a LOAd raise because 20 guys went to UA😂... sure its a problem, but not an improtant one st this point...
05-22-2022 | 02:41 PM
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The 3% raise they are getting because of the NEA would put a B6 12yr CA at $283.... thats best rate A320 in the USA. Thats not too bad.... i wouldnt mind that being a negotiation baseline.... not that we are going to get their or f9 contract, but I am damn sure they wont downgrade their rates for a merger with us....
05-22-2022 | 03:44 PM
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The 3% raise they are getting because of the NEA would put a B6 12yr CA at $283.... thats best rate A320 in the USA. Thats not too bad.... i wouldnt mind that being a negotiation baseline.... not that we are going to get their or f9 contract, but I am damn sure they wont downgrade their rates for a merger with us....
05-22-2022 | 05:01 PM
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