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Old 07-29-2022 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by My name is BOB
🤣🤣🤣 just a heads up for the spirit guys that seem to think they’re instantly so much better than everyone else… I can promise you the F9 guys are extremely happy this is over. We’re moving forward while you all sit in limbo for the next 2 years not even knowing what you are. I have a ton of friends at spirit who are great guys so I know that I’m only speaking to the 1%’er group here. It’s funny how y’all just jumped a pedestal so quick. Time will tell how this plays out. I do truly hope the best for y’all and the smurfs. When I say smurfs, I’m definitely singling out the few that run rampant up in here. Most the JetBlue guys seem very down to earth. Good luck
good lord just go away already
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Old 07-29-2022 | 09:38 PM
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good lord just go away already
And a 1% showed up as expected. Hi way up there🤣
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Old 07-30-2022 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by My name is BOB
🤣🤣🤣 just a heads up for the spirit guys that seem to think they’re instantly so much better than everyone else… I can promise you the F9 guys are extremely happy this is over. We’re moving forward while you all sit in limbo for the next 2 years not even knowing what you are. I have a ton of friends at spirit who are great guys so I know that I’m only speaking to the 1%’er group here. It’s funny how y’all just jumped a pedestal so quick. Time will tell how this plays out. I do truly hope the best for y’all and the smurfs. When I say smurfs, I’m definitely singling out the few that run rampant up in here. Most the JetBlue guys seem very down to earth. Good luck
Actually we won't be in "limbo". It will be business as usual, planes still coming bases still opening and $19 fares abound. If for some reason this does get shot down by the DOJ we'll still be the largest ULCC in the country.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 05:40 AM
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Actually we won't be in "limbo". It will be business as usual, planes still coming bases still opening and $19 fares abound. If for some reason this does get shot down by the DOJ we'll still be the lowest paid pilot group in the country.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 05:42 AM
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And a 1% showed up as expected. Hi way up there🤣
Hate to break this to you but...your friends were being nice to you. They feel sorry for you. It's not you...it's your management. I was the same way with my F9 buddies, I danced around simply just saying there's no way I would work for your terrible management.

There were alot of F9 supporters when JB first made an offer. I can promise you that most I know..by far..switched to supporting a JB takeover. It's not our fault your management and ours came out and directly told us not to expect more money. We didn't make them shrink bases where we live. We didn't make them lie to shareholders and by extension, us, trying to push through a bum deal.

NK and F9 showed their hand. It sucked. We are free from Frankie. Focus your attention on pushing them to support you instead of treating you like crap.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by My name is BOB
🤣🤣🤣 just a heads up for the spirit guys that seem to think they’re instantly so much better than everyone else… I can promise you the F9 guys are extremely happy this is over. We’re moving forward while you all sit in limbo for the next 2 years not even knowing what you are. I have a ton of friends at spirit who are great guys so I know that I’m only speaking to the 1%’er group here. It’s funny how y’all just jumped a pedestal so quick. Time will tell how this plays out. I do truly hope the best for y’all and the smurfs. When I say smurfs, I’m definitely singling out the few that run rampant up in here. Most the JetBlue guys seem very down to earth. Good luck

do you know if NK guys are over on the animal board trying to convince everyone how happy they are now that it’s not happening?

i don’t know because I haven’t been over there. But since you’re here begging everyone to believe you’re super happy now, can you let us know?
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Old 07-30-2022 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Popeye0537
Actually we won't be in "limbo". It will be business as usual, planes still coming bases still opening and $19 fares abound. If for some reason this does get shot down by the DOJ we'll still be the largest ULCC in the country.

I spent some time on frontier‘s website trying to find those $19 fairs and could not find a single one. I searched exactly to all the criteria (Black out date, certain days of the week, etc.) couldn’t not find a single one I found

now, I know Spirit has done the same in the past and I’m not saying there’s is honest either.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
I spent some time on frontier‘s website trying to find those $19 fairs and could not find a single one. I searched exactly to all the criteria (Black out date, certain days of the week, etc.) couldn’t not find a single one I found

now, I know Spirit has done the same in the past and I’m not saying there’s is honest either.
Those rates are a loss leader. It's a great strategy to get people in the seats and try to get add-ons like snacks, baggage fees, etc. In terms of an airline business model, the more budget the airline, the more of these rates you will see. The legacies really don't offer them because their pricing is typically all inclusive. These budget rates are also usually very restrictive. They are usually offered in the flying off seasons, at odd times, and to/from locations where traffic is light or a company is new to a market. It's a tactic that can work. But they of course are not exclusive to NK/F9. JB offers them, and of course so does SW. They are pretty common over at SW but with a big caveat that they are not really considered a loss leader because "bags fly free."

Bragging about a $19 rate isn't really a good idea. Unless a person adds on a bunch of other fees, that seat is being sold usually at a loss, but less of a loss than it would be if it were empty. The real concern for the ULCC model is that they are painted into the leisure travel corner. Business travelers are the ones with the money. They splurge on a lot since its typically not their money they are spending. We are seeing our bases in big cities being reduced simply because we cannot drive the same kind of traffic that a legacy, SW, or JB can. We are being moved slowly to leisure markets because this is where the ULCC model shines, but that is all we have. Any upset in that market and we go back to reducing our margins in profitability majorly.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
do you know if NK guys are over on the animal board trying to convince everyone how happy they are now that it’s not happening?

i don’t know because I haven’t been over there. But since you’re here begging everyone to believe you’re super happy now, can you let us know?
They’re definitely all over our board, hovering above us though, talking down to us from that pedestal 🤣🤣

I’ll just start waving toward the ceiling when I pass yall in the terminal 🤣🤣 only kidding of course. I do hope the best for y’all, y’all have always been extremely nice to me when I ride on y’all. You got a top notch group over there.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by My name is BOB
They’re definitely all over our board, hovering above us though, talking down to us from that pedestal 🤣🤣

I’ll just start waving toward the ceiling when I pass yall in the terminal 🤣🤣 only kidding of course. I do hope the best for y’all, y’all have always been extremely nice to me when I ride on y’all. You got a top notch group over there.
I do have to admit it’s kind of funny how we can be best friends one minute because we’re gonna merge with each other. Then the next minute we’re all enemies because we’re now competitors.

I was actually about to send out a birthday invitation to “my name is Bob” but now I’m not going to anymore. Instead I’m gonna send an invitation to BlueDriver and BeatNavy for my son’s bar mitzvah

everybody and myself included are all buying that blue soap trying to scrub that ULCC stank off and being proud of it.
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