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Old 07-28-2022 | 01:03 PM
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Alright I owe someone a beer that snuck the synergies question in and even better that it was last question 😂
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Old 07-28-2022 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
God this is a dumb post, seriously.

Frontier at least posted a profit as an airline yesterday, whereas we are slated for another loss. We remain one of the few airlines that still cant make a buck coming out of 2020. Remember how the F9 deal was a sure thing? Things can and do fall apart, so stop it with the "Frontier is doomed, we are awesome."

Way too early to spike the football while we remain a money losing airline who cant retain talent and a CEO who cares more about his bailout than the day to day operations.
Frontier posting a profit this quarter is meaningless if they can’t grow the airline in a year from now… eventually they will run out of 1500 hour CFI’s to choose from and succumb to pilot attrition.

if Jetblue and Spirit get a really good contract from this JCBA and become the fifth largest airline that will be more incentive for pilots.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how...it-11659002170

^^^ According to this article it’s all about the pilot attrition
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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
Frontier posting a profit this quarter is meaningless if they can’t grow the airline in a year from now… eventually they will run out of 1500 hour CFI’s to choose from and succumb to pilot attrition.

if Jetblue and Spirit get a really good contract from this JCBA and become the fifth largest airline that will be more incentive for pilots.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how...it-11659002170

^^^ According to this article it’s all about the pilot attrition
Not sure why you think a JCBA and being the 5th biggest airline will move the needle for people. Even a great JCBA (it won't be industry leading) won't keep people who want to fly wide bodies or upgrade in 2 years.
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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
Frontier posting a profit this quarter is meaningless if they can’t grow the airline in a year from now… eventually they will run out of 1500 hour CFI’s to choose from and succumb to pilot attrition.

if Jetblue and Spirit get a really good contract from this JCBA and become the fifth largest airline that will be more incentive for pilots.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how...it-11659002170

^^^ According to this article it’s all about the pilot attrition
paywall

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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops
Now I can delete my apps with the legacies. Let's go get a dope contract.
JB management will not want you to have a new contract. They like having a lower paid pilot group. They will grow the Spirit side of the airline and do everything they can to not allow the two groups to merge, including not negotiating a contract which is the first step.

Don’t expect a new contract anytime soon. The good news is the Spirit side of B6 will grow as much as management can let it and the legacy JB side not so much.
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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dewey299
Will Spirit be hiring pilots still or will JetBlue start having a say on the hiring?
When UAL and CAL merged, new management flew the sides as separate airlines and grew the cheaper CAL side of the airline. I expect that to happen here as well. JB Management didn’t buy a ULCC to make their costs higher.
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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
JB management will not want you to have a new contract. They like having a lower paid pilot group. They will grow the Spirit side of the airline and do everything they can to not allow the two groups to merge, including not negotiating a contract which is the first step.

Don’t expect a new contract anytime soon. The good news is the Spirit side of B6 will grow as much as management can let it and the legacy JB side not so much.

Another person new to the airline world.
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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
paywall

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it let me read it the second time I clicked onto it.
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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
When UAL and CAL merged, new management flew the sides as separate airlines and grew the cheaper CAL side of the airline. I expect that to happen here as well. JB Management didn’t buy a ULCC to make their costs higher.
No they bought us to expand their network overnight (in essence) CAL did not grow at the expense of UAL, what are you smoking. And we will make there costs higher, retrofitting all our A/C and hopefully hiring some decent FA's who are willing to actually work instead of complaining.
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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Not sure why you think a JCBA and being the 5th biggest airline will move the needle for people. Even a great JCBA (it won't be industry leading) won't keep people who want to fly wide bodies or upgrade in 2 years.

Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops
Now I can delete my apps with the legacies. Let's go get a dope contract.

^^^The very first post on here.


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