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CincoDeMayo 08-23-2022 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3482343)
this is bad advice and bad strategy.

Cool story bro.

You get 15 minutes to call them back
You get 3 hours upon receiving notification for a trip assignment. "Pilot ready to push" from the union interpretation.

Notification is defined as "positive contact or self notification"

BusBoi 08-23-2022 11:38 AM

Wow, I'm in the same position. I live 1:20 from ACY and have been driving since I started. I'm actually considering transferring to DTW and commuting from EWR (I'm 30 minutes to the employee lot). The trips in AC suuuuuuck (all east coast, rarely go west of the Mississippi, mostly lame Florida overnights, etc). I already have a commuter employee parking pass for EWR (it's $72/mo, in case you're wondering). In my time here I've done many out-of-base pickups, and I'll use EWR for commuting for training and for personal travel.

I've done most of my pickups from DTW. It's an easy commute from EWR, anywhere from 5 to 10 flights a day between UA and DL. Getting a seat is easy; only had to ride the jumpseat once. DTW has a lot of west coast flying (which I love) and a lot of commutable trips. Lots of west coast flights with late starts and redeyes to end (or arrive at DTW around midnight, where I just fall asleep in the crew room and catch the first flight back to EWR).

Also, my first opportunity to hold captain, which will likely be in a few months, will not be in ACY. It's very senior on the captain side. So I'm also deciding if I want to commute to reserve.

I have a very efficient car (40mpg highway) as well. It's 166 miles round trip. At current gas prices the amount I would save on gas is more than enough to cover the cost of EWR parking (and this is just gas savings. There's also mx costs, depreciation, etc). Also hotels around DTW, in my experience, are pretty cheap and plentiful. I've gotten the LaQuinta for like $65. As a lineholder, if you play your cards right, you might not need more than a couple rooms a month.

182DD 08-23-2022 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3482325)
Remember, you also have a 15 minute call back once they call you for an assignment.

So you are home on red alert, uniform hanging in the car. Phone rings, scheduling, you dont answer. 15 minute clock starts. You check Flica, see what time youre tagged, and either hit the road right then or take a breath and plan your drive. Just remember to call them back within 15 (they will continue to blow your phone up during that 15 minutes). So you technically have 3:15 from phone call to ready to depart.

Plan on working a lot as a reserve FO here at NK. Attrition isnt stopping anytime soon so I expect reserve FOs to continue to be used an abused. You finish a trip, call to check out, back on another trip...so I think you will stay busy. And yes, some assignments will be a turn and a DH back, some a 4 day, and everything in between. You're reserve, you are there for the abusing until we can change some of these reserve rules in the next CBA.

Thanks! That helps a little. LAS is where I’ll (hopefully) be driving to.

DrDHD 08-23-2022 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3482371)
Cool story bro.

You get 15 minutes to call them back
You get 3 hours upon receiving notification for a trip assignment. "Pilot ready to push" from the union interpretation.

Notification is defined as "positive contact or self notification"

this is 100 percent accurate. 3h 15m ready to push using cincos first example.

Carl LaFong 08-23-2022 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3482371)
Cool story bro.

You get 15 minutes to call them back
You get 3 hours upon receiving notification for a trip assignment. "Pilot ready to push" from the union interpretation.

Notification is defined as "positive contact or self notification"

The only way this ISN’T bad advice is if you amend it by saying “.......although I would not recommend this strategy for someone on probation.”

CincoDeMayo 08-23-2022 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Carl LaFong (Post 3482404)
The only way this ISN’T bad advice is if you amend it by saying “.......although I would not recommend this strategy for someone on probation.”

Also nice to remember anyone can get a “tire blowout” at any time, once. Just sayin’

But if you want to drive and sit at Starbucks for 14 hours, go for it

JulesWinfield 08-23-2022 01:52 PM

Also, keep in mind it’s rare that you get called with minimum callout. I did 6 months of reserve in two bases and only got called once at the minimum callout. Most of the time, I would get tagged a day early, self notify, and turn my phone off and chill.

DrDHD 08-23-2022 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3482461)
Also, keep in mind it’s rare that you get called with minimum callout. I did 6 months of reserve in two bases and only got called once at the minimum callout. Most of the time, I would get tagged a day early, self notify, and turn my phone off and chill.

not as rare as everyone says. It happens a lot. Move up pay will also be offered. It happens more to Crews in FL bases. That said, folk’s prior experience doesn’t guarantee future results

elmetal 08-23-2022 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Carl LaFong (Post 3482404)
The only way this ISN’T bad advice is if you amend it by saying “.......although I would not recommend this strategy for someone on probation.”

What exactly is the advice given that isn't explicitly what's written in the CBA?

The pilot has every right to do EXACTLY what Cinco said.

That being said, you best be ready to push by 3:00 from notification.


Let's be honest here, the crew is never the actual reason for any delay anyway.

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CincoDeMayo 08-23-2022 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 3482548)

Let's be honest here, the crew is never the actual reason for any delay anyway.

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So true. Even IF a delay is on the crew, I’m willing to bet there is a section of the CBA/manual that relieves me from the delay.


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