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Old 09-15-2022 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 93Sierra
Are the early open discussions solely focused on a TA or are they also talking about a mou for the short term?

We only know what the Union tells us.


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Old 09-15-2022 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
Let them play their old school games. If Alaska or a big 4 get a pay raise first it will just raise the bar. I almost don’t want to be the first Airbus pilot to get a pay raise….
Only airbus? I would want to include Southwest and other Boeing operators.
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Old 09-15-2022 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
Only airbus? I would want to include Southwest and other Boeing operators.
Alaska is mostly boeing…..
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Old 09-15-2022 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
And that is where I stopped reading.
Except he makes more sense than you do. I’m guessing an AIP in 90 days or less.
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Old 09-16-2022 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OneplusF
Except he makes more sense than you do. I’m guessing an AIP in 90 days or less.
Just one of the many examples against everyone's "shortage will fix everything quickly" line of thinking.

After 2 years in formal Section 6 negotiations without "any meaningful headway" Southwest Airline's pilot union has voted in favor of federal mediation. - From Thursday
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Old 09-16-2022 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowBus
Just one of the many examples against everyone's "shortage will fix everything quickly" line of thinking.

After 2 years in formal Section 6 negotiations without "any meaningful headway" Southwest Airline's pilot union has voted in favor of federal mediation. - From Thursday
We have people leaving Spirit for SWA, not the other way around. People are not leaving SWA for legacy carriers the same rate they are here. So SWA's stagnation isnt comparable. A better comp for us are the regional airlines, which like us, are stepping stones currently.
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Old 09-16-2022 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Go to any subforum and its pilots talking about how their management is the worst and how inept they are.
Our management is pretty close to the worst, but they are most certainly *not* inept. They're extremely ept. Like it was said, just look at what happened 5 years ago. I'll save you the boredom of yet another soapbox.
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Old 09-17-2022 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
A better comp for us are the regional airlines, which like us, are stepping stones currently.
This is true coming from a regional pilot.

This is verbatim coming from a current Spirit FO who has a CJO with Delta to me. “Just come to Spirit and get the type rating. The training pay and first year pay is crap, but you’ll get picked up by a major in your first year anyway.”
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Old 09-17-2022 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
This is true coming from a regional pilot.

This is verbatim coming from a current Spirit FO who has a CJO with Delta to me. “Just come to Spirit and get the type rating. The training pay and first year pay is crap, but you’ll get picked up by a major in your first year anyway.”
I’d go to frontier to get the type and an increase in pay for the time you’re there….. but that’s just me.
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Old 09-17-2022 | 04:09 PM
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What's the impression that with these negotiations, the training pay will be fixed?
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