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JulesWinfield 10-22-2022 06:44 AM

These low credit redeyes need to go.

Irishblackbird 10-22-2022 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3517870)
These low credit redeyes need to go.

Yes they do!! And my understanding is they want to increase efficiency by building more. We need an override in the next contract... my uniform isn't brown and my paycheck reflects that as well.

JulesWinfield 10-22-2022 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 3517874)
Yes they do!! And my understanding is they want to increase efficiency by building more. We need an override in the next contract... my uniform isn't brown and my paycheck reflects that as well.

Override on top of a better system than we have with the trip averaging nonsense.

symbian simian 10-22-2022 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 3517856)
It depends on how the pairing is constructed. If it's a true 4 day, generally 20-25 hours. The later number very rare. Like the other guy said 15-17, if it's a 4 day that really gets in at midnight on the 3rd day.


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3517891)
Override on top of a better system than we have with the trip averaging nonsense.

And that is why I don't look at the amount of calendar days, just TAFB and commutability. Calendar days means nothing, at least not in LAS with start/end times all over the clock.
Trip A starts with a redeye to FLL leaving at 23:45, jungle turn, and gets done at 00:15 on day 4 with 3 duty periods, so 15hrs credit.
Trip B starts with redeye to IAH that leaves at 01:00 next day, jungle turn, and comes back to at 2300 on day 2 (I know, illegal, 2 check ins in 1 day) 3 duty periods, so 15hrs credit.
Is trip B really two times better than trip A?

SSlow 10-22-2022 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by chesty (Post 3517718)
well I’m on captain reserve in FLL and I fly just about every day…. Lots of open time trips I have to cover and I’m R3

Yup, and that's why I wrote that reserve is a whole different ballgame. Once you can hold a line in FLL you'll never fly another day turn in your career if you so please, unless you get canceled and rescheduled into one.

SoFloFlyer 10-30-2022 11:27 AM

I have a few friends asking me about the DFW base here and I have no clue. I don’t have access to that info yet on Flica. Can anyone shed some light on DFW? All I know is that someone shouldn’t come to Spirit for it, but that person didn’t give me anymore info/context.

CincoDeMayo 10-30-2022 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3523259)
I have a few friends asking me about the DFW base here and I have no clue. I don’t have access to that info yet on Flica. Can anyone shed some light on DFW? All I know is that someone shouldn’t come to Spirit for it, but that person didn’t give me anymore info/context.

The Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex, officially designated Dallas–Fort Worth–Arlington by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, is a conurbated metropolitan statistical area in the U.S. state of Texas encompassing 11 counties and anchored by the major cities of Dallas and Fort Worth

There ya go. Your friends should be all caught up with DFW. Maybe a little more clarity on the info you want will help with speculation on the base

MCDUmanipulator 10-30-2022 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3523259)
I have a few friends asking me about the DFW base here and I have no clue. I don’t have access to that info yet on Flica. Can anyone shed some light on DFW? All I know is that someone shouldn’t come to Spirit for it, but that person didn’t give me anymore info/context.

it’s shrinking by around 60 captains and 15 FO’s on the big reshuffle bid next month. Could shrink more in the future, could stay the same, maybe grow? Nobody knows. But after this bid it’ll probably take 8 years or so to home Dfw captain.

SoFloFlyer 10-30-2022 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3523295)
it’s shrinking by around 60 captains and 15 FO’s on the big reshuffle bid next month. Could shrink more in the future, could stay the same, maybe grow? Nobody knows. But after this bid it’ll probably take 8 years or so to home Dfw captain.

Thanks for the info! So, no one should come here for a DFW base?

SoFloFlyer 10-30-2022 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3523295)
it’s shrinking by around 60 captains and 15 FO’s on the big reshuffle bid next month. Could shrink more in the future, could stay the same, maybe grow? Nobody knows. But after this bid it’ll probably take 8 years or so to home Dfw captain.

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit is it?


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