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E6BAV8R 11-03-2022 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3526035)
It’s not all sunshine and smiles.

So tell us, wise one, what airline holds these sunshines and smiles, that holds this golden goose?

SSlow 11-03-2022 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by E6BAV8R (Post 3526052)
So tell us, wise one, what airline holds these sunshines and smiles, that holds this golden goose?

If I had to guess, it would be the ones that retain nearly everyone they hire. Just a guess though...

CAirBear 11-03-2022 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3526035)
Fixed it for accuracy. It’s not all sunshine and smiles.

Except he isn’t. I’m fairly certain he’s DFW based. There are 12 - yes TWELVE FOs being displaced. It’s nothing in the realm of ORD or DTW.

Personally that’s a F’n joke to even F with such a meaningless minuscule number of FOs like that. I realize the CA is bigger, but messing with 12 guys? F that.

It’s painfully obvious this displacement won’t do jack $hit with recovering the operation. Our idiotic project greenfield has made it clear this solves zero issues hence why my entire last day (4 days after Ian in an entirely different part of the country) was axed and we were the only airline canceling 20%+ days after.

Sadly it’s clear Ted and Bendo are way too butt hurt about Frontier and will continue to be total clowns until this BS is over with and they can run to Denver.

CincoDeMayo 11-03-2022 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3526067)
Except he isn’t. I’m fairly certain he’s DFW based. There are 12 - yes TWELVE FOs being displaced. It’s nothing in the realm of ORD or DTW.

Personally that’s a F’n joke to even F with such a meaningless minuscule number of FOs like that. I realize the CA is bigger, but messing with 12 guys? F that.

It’s painfully obvious this displacement won’t do jack $hit with recovering the operation. Our idiotic project greenfield has made it clear this solves zero issues hence why my entire last day (4 days after Ian in an entirely different part of the country) was axed and we were the only airline canceling 20%+ days after.

Sadly it’s clear Ted and Bendo are way too butt hurt about Frontier and will continue to be total clowns until this BS is over with and they can run to Denver.

He was saying how great his seniority is and how he can hold Captain at bases including ORD and DTW. Which is worthless since pilots senior to him will be displaced from those bases in a few months. So yeah, saying he can “hold” CA in ORD and DTW is not the full story.

CAirBear 11-03-2022 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3526084)
He was saying how great his seniority is and how he can hold Captain at bases including ORD and DTW. Which is worthless since pilots senior to him will be displaced from those bases in a few months. So yeah, saying he can “hold” CA in ORD and DTW is not the full story.

Ahh. I gotcha. Yeah. It’s really really stupid they are upgrading people into bases they won’t hold in a couple months. 🙄

CincoDeMayo 11-03-2022 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3526098)
Ahh. I gotcha. Yeah. It’s really really stupid they are upgrading people into bases they won’t hold in a couple months. 🙄

Contractually they have to, and I’m glad they are having to because they have to pay to displace those pilots. Anyone upgrading into those bases knows they will be displaced, but now they can get a free move or the $2500 (I believe) for the displacement. Company should have to pay every penny required for this displacement. A displacement 100% because management can’t manage to run an airline at full utilization because of staffing.

dualinput 11-03-2022 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3526098)
Ahh. I gotcha. Yeah. It’s really really stupid they are upgrading people into bases they won’t hold in a couple months. 🙄

Seriously, read the CBA. You may learn something. Oh, and make an educated vote when the time comes for a new one.

CAirBear 11-04-2022 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3526163)
Seriously, read the CBA. You may learn something. Oh, and make an educated vote when the time comes for a new one.

Yes I am aware. I’m based in ORD. I see the constant junior CA upgrades coming in below me. Most coming in aren’t based anywhere near ORD and are commuting for essentially no reason for 2-3 months when they get canned to FL. THAT ASPECT is stupid. Again I’m aware of the CBA. Thanks for your concern.

As Cinco said it’s gonna cost em which is good - so there is that. And as the union stated, none of this realignment is going to help make CS answer phones r the company in whole do anything better lol. I commute and very well would expect my voluntary displacement (to help a local junior folk) to happen for $2500.

LoopsMcDoops 11-04-2022 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3526098)
Ahh. I gotcha. Yeah. It’s really really stupid they are upgrading people into bases they won’t hold in a couple months. 🙄

What's REALLY funny is, if they had just started growing the bases they needed LAST YEAR when they cancelled the original displacement, we'd be pretty darn close to having those bases staffed. Without a displacement. Life's about to get really crappy for a bunch of pilots being displaced away from their homes. Great way to retain pilots.

LoopsMcDoops 11-04-2022 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3526101)
Contractually they have to, and I’m glad they are having to because they have to pay to displace those pilots. Anyone upgrading into those bases knows they will be displaced, but now they can get a free move or the $2500 (I believe) for the displacement. Company should have to pay every penny required for this displacement. A displacement 100% because management can’t manage to run an airline at full utilization because of staffing.

The payout for being displaced is a complete joke. This is not a win for the pilots.


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