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Originally Posted by Lakeaffect
(Post 3522856)
The difference in QOL between a Line holding CA and a 1st year RSV F/O is night and day. I think this thread got off topic, we shouldn’t be talking about how awesome QOL is for line holding captains in base (it’s really good!) If some one coming to spirit now could expect that in 3 years, then yes it would be relevant, but I don’t think any new hire can expect that. It’s going to be a long time to upgrade and hold a line as Capt. for new hires, much longer than most airlines.
Of all the things to complain about here, that one should be pretty far down the list for most. Upgrade times? Completely different story and I'd agree it's going to be years for someone hired today. |
Originally Posted by SSlow
(Post 3522868)
Sure, but this whole "everyone is going to be stuck doing turns for the rest of their career" narrative is getting old and is severely out of context.
Of all the things to complain about here, that one should be pretty far down the list for most. Upgrade times? Completely different story and I'd agree it's going to be years for someone hired today. |
Originally Posted by onedolla
(Post 3522889)
Well, no kidding. JB isn’t going to run this place like the current team.
https://i.ibb.co/3NWjLgT/69-D05-BEB-...E66855-CFD.jpg Eventually they are going to have to up the pay for retention, and every additional aircraft is going to generate about six new CA slots. But no, three year and probably even five year upgrades are likely a thing of the past for a decade or two. |
Originally Posted by Lakeaffect
(Post 3522856)
The difference in QOL between a Line holding CA and a 1st year RSV F/O is night and day. I think this thread got off topic, we shouldn’t be talking about how awesome QOL is for line holding captains in base (it’s really good!) If some one coming to spirit now could expect that in 3 years, then yes it would be relevant, but I don’t think any new hire can expect that. It’s going to be a long time to upgrade and hold a line as Capt. for new hires, much longer than most airlines.
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Since someone mentioned upgrades.
Anyone know how ALPA treats recently upgraded captains as part of their merger protocol? Upgrade end of next year for example and the merger goes through 6 months or a year after? Stay as captain, downgraded, flushed out of base, etc… |
Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
(Post 3522942)
Being junior commuting to reserve sucks ? Who knew?.. man that really surprises me. And I’m betting it’s pure bliss everywhere else but here too..makes me wanna go to united SFO bus street Captain reserve for the amazing QOL..
“What?! I’ve been flying for 5 years, what do you mean I won’t be a line holding captain in the base of my choice, making over $300k a year?! Did I mention I’ve been flying for 5 years and amassed over 2500 hours of flying!” |
Originally Posted by dickwhitman
(Post 3522949)
Since someone mentioned upgrades.
Anyone know how ALPA treats recently upgraded captains as part of their merger protocol? Upgrade end of next year for example and the merger goes through 6 months or a year after? Stay as captain, downgraded, flushed out of base, etc… |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3522953)
Prima Nocta is declared on all wives of newhire captains.
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
(Post 3522942)
Being junior commuting to reserve sucks ? Who knew?.. man that really surprises me. And I’m betting it’s pure bliss everywhere else but here too..makes me wanna go to united SFO bus street Captain reserve for the amazing QOL..
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Originally Posted by Lakeaffect
(Post 3522975)
Go to United because you can be a 1st year Capt on the BUS, QOL will be maybe worse, but you’ll be making 5X what you’d make as a 1st year Spirit F/O. Or don’t upgrade and hold a line a lot faster with way more options, more pay, more retirement. Those things along with seniority progression factor heavily into QOL.
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