Maybe in todays hiring environment things have changed, but when I was looking for job you didn’t post your app unless you wanted the job. If you got an invite and turned it down that was it. You were done with that airline. Hence why this story above seems so weird to me.

A lot of people I know put out an app outside spirit and changed their mind by the time they heard back. My friend was reached out to by a recruiter when he updated something. Not sure if it was his resume or profile on linkin or airline apps. He didn’t specifically email delta and tell them he was typed just to turn them down. It was passive. They came to him.

Adding my experience:

Fourth year NK FO. Like Spirit but interested in Legacy A for personal reasons, basing one of them. Began applying to Legacy A, and also Legacy B, in March. Close to 1500 hours SIC on the Airbus. No TPIC though as I never upgraded at my regional. Didn't hear anything from Legacy A until October. Have never heard from Legacy B.

Interviewed at Legacy A this week. I think it went alright but I think I could have done better on the technical scenarios. There were eight other pilots in my little interview group. There were zero regional pilots, and only one military. Three of us were from ULCC.

Yesterday I was talking to one of our pilots, not that much junior too me, who has a job offer from Legacy C. In his interview group of 20, 10 were military, 5 were regional (all captains), 5 were non-regional civilian. Everyone was hired except the regional pilots.

How is life as a 4th year FO at NK?
When are you able to hold an upgrade?


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I just flew with an FO who got an upgrade award and he was either just under or just over 4 years, forgot which.

4th year FO means he's been there anywhere from 3 to 4 years [4th year pay], not 4+ so likely can't upgrade yet.

Who cares? There were two separate questions in that post.

It’s pretty great actually. In the 20% range in base of choice. Around 57% company seniority. Could hold captain currently in ORD, DTW, FLL or LAS

Ive been here 3.5 and can hold CA. I have numerous junior to me taking it each bid. To each their own, but it’s absolutely obtainable at 3.5 probably even 3 at the moment.

Someone asked about life here. While the grid is a lot more red on the FO side (base dependent) I still get most of what I want in my award and basically all of the days off I need. Even with a red grid I can still swap into different sometimes better trips over my original trip award, so still have some flexibility.

I love it here and have no plans on leaving. That said I do realize that someone hired today in the 3000s is a hell of a lot diff than myself 3.5 years ago when I was 1900ish on the list. I was fortunate to be one of the first classes with massive hiring until Covid hit. Then we continued hiring 9-10 months after Covid continuously.

The tough part of this career is timing, good and bad. Again I 100% understand why we have such high attrition. It’s a totally diff airline for a new hire today vs 4 years ago.

I believe when all the BS growing/merger pains are over the new Blue is going to workout well. I’m not old, but I’m not insanely young either. I could probably leave, but I look at where I’ll realistically be after an SLI on a 7-8,000 combined pilot list and it doesn’t make a lot of sense to leave.

Fixed it for accuracy. It’s not all sunshine and smiles.