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Old 02-17-2023 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
Same. I refuse to wear that meaningless orange lanyard.
You’ll fit right in.
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Old 02-17-2023 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
The TA already passed. It's over.
Not exactly sure why you are replying that to me..... I voted for, and I know the TA has passed.
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Old 02-18-2023 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
Wow, so much for unity when these guys keep winning every negotiation. We surely got them last time and this round. So answer me this, Lets say we go for negotiations and wear a red lanyard , 70% vote yes for another below industry pay, what have we accomplished? 31% actually gives a flying phuk FYI. Fool me once, shame on you....figure the rest. Done with this NK unity crap, good thing we won't have this problem once b6 gets approved ( i hope).
The goals were made clear when negotiations started, and the NC did precisely what we told them to do, but you do you.
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Old 02-19-2023 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
The goals were made clear when negotiations started, and the NC did precisely what we told them to do, but you do you.
We told them to make us the joke of the industry? That’s news to me…
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Old 02-19-2023 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
We told them to make us the joke of the industry? That’s news to me…
Haha. Classic Lincoln. I’m sure AA , SWA and UAL pilots are sitting around laughing at our CBA while they continue to wait for their second TA, or first for SWA.

I’m willing to bet they are a little more invested in getting their own deal vs the short term deal we signed.
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Old 02-19-2023 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Haha. Classic Lincoln. I’m sure AA , SWA and UAL pilots are sitting around laughing at our CBA while they continue to wait for their second TA, or first for SWA.

I’m willing to bet they are a little more invested in getting their own deal vs the short term deal we signed.
Never assume a deal is “short term”. This is 101 type stuff. Tell me you are new without telling me you are new. The yes voters aka “just happy to be here” are a sensitive bunch.
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Old 02-19-2023 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Never assume a deal is “short term”. This is 101 type stuff. Tell me you are new without telling me you are new. The yes voters aka “just happy to be here” are a sensitive bunch.
And never assume "they will come back with a new deal quick."

Tell me you are new without telling me you are new.

And it is a short term. It literally says it on the first few pages, 2 years with early opener or failure of the merger, whatever comes first. Reading is fundamental, total 101 stuff. You might not "like" the deal but it is a short term deal.
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Old 02-19-2023 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
And never assume "they will come back with a new deal quick."

Tell me you are new without telling me you are new.

And it is a short term. It literally says it on the first few pages, 2 years with early opener or failure of the merger, whatever comes first. Reading is fundamental, total 101 stuff. You might not "like" the deal but it is a short term deal.
I usually don’t agree with him but it’s only short term if the deal falls through. If it’s allowed the next thing we get will be the JCBA. Who knows how long that will take but I’d bet more than 2 years from January.
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Old 02-19-2023 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Conquistador27
I usually don’t agree with him but it’s only short term if the deal falls through. If it’s allowed the next thing we get will be the JCBA. Who knows how long that will take but I’d bet more than 2 years from January.
If the JetBlue deal is not held up in the courts, the JCBA ought to be pretty quick. In addition to the $3.8 Billion JetBlue's paying for Spirit, they have the cost of repainting all the aircraft, new interiors, paying Airbus to convert all those little 319 NEOs into 320s and 321s with different interiors, combining and getting FAA approval on a common training program and common certificate, etc. And to get return on that investment, they NEED a JCBA. It won’t be JB that would benefit by dragging this out - they’ll be losing money if they do. This time the foot-dragging leverage is on the pilot’s side.
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Old 02-19-2023 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
And never assume "they will come back with a new deal quick."

Tell me you are new without telling me you are new.

And it is a short term. It literally says it on the first few pages, 2 years with early opener or failure of the merger, whatever comes first. Reading is fundamental, total 101 stuff. You might not "like" the deal but it is a short term deal.
Id rather us send them a resounding “NO” and them not come back to the table at all then show the entire industry what a weak joke we are. Happy to take what table scraps daddy Ted will give them.
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