There is no actual “back to the table” if the JB merger fails and two years has gone by. In reality we will be “negotiating” but nothing will happen and they will announce a frontier merger at which point we will get nothing and then try to squeeze blood from a turnip with frontier, so again, nothing. Then the exodus begins and I hope I’m gone early.

This has nothing to do with our contract passing but just what will happen if the JB merger fails

This is our contract until a JCBA with JetBlue or a strike with frontier. Period

 

Did you even read what I wrote?

We would only be on 2018 if all of those thing HAD happened. YOUR assumption is that those things WOULD definitely have happened. That is every bit as much of your feels as it is mine.

 

To tell you the truth, if I had to follow this logic everytime a payrate vote is placed infront of me, I would be voting yes everytime. Else I will be on the old rate right? Completely disregarding what the market rate is trending towards, as long as the new rate is more than the old rate, right? I and, I believe, a lot of others is not really looking for "The best paid A320 pilots since slice bread". I know it's a talking point just to make others look unreasonable, but just stop. What everyone want, or should want, is market rate. Period. That includes being within $2 or $3 of UAL, AA, DAL, SWA. Profit sharing etc. MARKET RATE.

Not getting a $20 raise and still be $20-30 behind what the market rate is. But I guess it's better than 2018 rates right? That's what some of the guys here are trying to say. No one is losing sleep for not being the "highest paid".

 

https://stocks.apple.com/AvndrE1jFQCq2p5utVNRptQ

some good news for the jetblue Spirit Merger!

The judge assigned to the case seems to be favorable.

Edit:

since this judge seems to be favorable towards businesses, hopefully it won’t go to trial and he’ll give it a summary judgment.

 

This guy gets it!

 

Except for the short term duration, meaning we get another turn at bat before AS or DL does. That actually does make a difference.

 

Not with this pilots groups mentality. "Yea but its more money than what we currently make!" BS argument with our NC selling whatever daddy Ted tells them to sell.

 

Or "my calculator says otherwise".

 

Except the DOT/Buttigieg said that he’s not going to transfer the Spirit FAA Operating Agreement over if the merger is approved by the courts. Which is under his sole ability administratively.

https://www.politico.com/video/2023/...-merger-853255

 

I don’t believe he has the legal authority to do that.