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Forward lav 05-14-2023 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3633770)
This is why you go to Spirit for the type rating and flight time, then leave for the big 3. I don’t understand why anyone would want to be a lifer flying these people around daily.

DrOp To zErO bRo!!!!!!

CLE to IAH 05-14-2023 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Forward lav (Post 3636412)
DrOp To zErO bRo!!!!!!

I know a lot of people like to be dismissive and snarky about it for whatever reason but I use this every month.

CincoDeMayo 05-14-2023 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3636441)
I know a lot of people like to be dismissive and snarky about it for whatever reason but I use this every month.

Anyone who dismisses the benefits of being able to drop, without being dependent of a trade board, really has no idea of the benefits of what we have. Jblu guys, do you know why our trade boards are basically empty on Flica? Because we don’t need them.

Thankfully any JCBA AIP or TA will have to be agreed to by a JNC and JMEC, before ever getting to the pilots. Checks and balances.

Forward lav 05-14-2023 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3636481)
Anyone who dismisses the benefits of being able to drop, without being dependent of a trade board, really has no idea of the benefits of what we have. Jblu guys, do you know why our trade boards are basically empty on Flica? Because we don’t need them.

Thankfully any JCBA AIP or TA will have to be agreed to by a JNC and JMEC, before ever getting to the pilots. Checks and balances.


I’m sure it’s great for you guys. The conversation around it is hilarious. Like you’re giving up hotel rooms on overnights.

Justabusdriver1 05-14-2023 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3636481)
Anyone who dismisses the benefits of being able to drop, without being dependent of a trade board, really has no idea of the benefits of what we have. Jblu guys, do you know why our trade boards are basically empty on Flica? Because we don’t need them.

Thankfully any JCBA AIP or TA will have to be agreed to by a JNC and JMEC, before ever getting to the pilots. Checks and balances.


overrated. If you can get out of a trip via a drop or a trade board who cares how you do it. How about just getting more pto time and anytime you don’t wanna work just call in. If jb trade boards are active and people actually pick up does it actually matter.

PossibleDeviation 05-14-2023 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3636534)
overrated. If you can get out of a trip via a drop or a trade board who cares how you do it. How about just getting more pto time and anytime you don’t wanna work just call in. If jb trade boards are active and people actually pick up does it actually matter.

With our CBA language the grid and dropping ability is pretty darn consistent. Trade boards are not. At some point in every month my schedule has “0” trips in it and I rebuild. If I depended on a trade board that wouldn’t be possible.

Justabusdriver1 05-14-2023 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3636539)
With our CBA language the grid and dropping ability is pretty darn consistent. Trade boards are not. At some point in every month my schedule has “0” trips in it and I rebuild. If I depended on a trade board that wouldn’t be possible.

I just work the trips I’m assigned. I bid for what I want and while I don’t always get what I want if I can’t swap a trip with something else I’d prefer to do or I truly need a day off I didn’t get in the bid I just call out sick for that trip. The over reliance on drop to 0 is just astounding. There’s so many ways to get the schedule you want or have a day off without needing to drop to 0. I’m not saying drop to 0 isn’t useful. But it’s just overrated when there’s many other means of getting the same outcome.

Crjdeuce 05-14-2023 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3636551)
I just work the trips I’m assigned. I bid for what I want and while I don’t always get what I want if I can’t swap a trip with something else I’d prefer to do or I truly need a day off I didn’t get in the bid I just call out sick for that trip. The over reliance on drop to 0 is just astounding. There’s so many ways to get the schedule you want or have a day off without needing to drop to 0. I’m not saying drop to 0 isn’t useful. But it’s just overrated when there’s many other means of getting the same outcome.

The benefit of drop to 0 isn’t just dropping all of your trips for the month. The benefit is the grid system with the ability to drop trips within 2 days. The flexibility is amazing and is definitely something we shouldn’t give up in a JCBA. The ball is in our court so why give up anything?

Forward lav 05-14-2023 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Crjdeuce (Post 3636555)
The benefit of drop to 0 isn’t just dropping all of your trips for the month. The benefit is the grid system with the ability to drop trips within 2 days. The flexibility is amazing and is definitely something we shouldn’t give up in a JCBA. The ball is in our court so why give up anything?

exactly, date of hire it is.

CincoDeMayo 05-14-2023 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3636534)
overrated. If you can get out of a trip via a drop or a trade board who cares how you do it. How about just getting more pto time and anytime you don’t wanna work just call in. If jb trade boards are active and people actually pick up does it actually matter.

You think guys will be jumping to pick up double red eye jungle turn 4 days on trade boards? Nah, I'll just drop it and be done with it.

Here is the difference: "I got my schedule, im going to drop this 3 day trip so I can take a trip" vs "I got my schedule, ill post it on the trade board, of someone wants my double jungle turn redeye, I can go on that trip"

And sure, im all for more PTO, doesnt mean im giving up industry leading drop provisions for it. I'll take both, thanks.


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