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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3636595)
You think guys will be jumping to pick up double red eye jungle turn 4 days on trade boards? Nah, I'll just drop it and be done with it.
Here is the difference: "I got my schedule, im going to drop this 3 day trip so I can take a trip" vs "I got my schedule, ill post it on the trade board, of someone wants my double jungle turn redeye, I can go on that trip" And sure, im all for more PTO, doesnt mean im giving up industry leading drop provisions for it. I'll take both, thanks. |
Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1
(Post 3636736)
don’t have to drop if you want to swap it. A red eye jungle turn I’d swap and if I couldn’t find anything to swap I’ll call out sick. Again plenty of options to get out of a trip with NEEDING to drop to zero.
Work rules, once gone, usually never come back. I know you have it all figured out in a year, but you’re wrong on this. |
Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1
(Post 3636736)
don’t have to drop if you want to swap it. A red eye jungle turn I’d swap and if I couldn’t find anything to swap I’ll call out sick. Again plenty of options to get out of a trip with NEEDING to drop to zero.
Freedom to drop(green grid obviously) without having to swap, trade, use pto or whatever else way one needs to manipulate the system to work for them. I hope the majority of the NK guys, specifically SPA ALPA are willing to die on this hill! |
Originally Posted by sioux8ships
(Post 3636766)
Man, what a selfish short sighted opinion. Obviously, you’re not familiar with the crappy open time or lack there of in other bases like DFW CA side. Drop to zero is less about the zero part and more about the drop to freedom!
Freedom to drop(green grid obviously) without having to swap, trade, use pto or whatever else way one needs to manipulate the system to work for them. I hope the majority of the NK guys, specifically SPA ALPA are willing to die on this hill! |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3636775)
He was doing steep turns in a 172 when our guys were fighting for our current red/green in arbitration. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3636595)
You think guys will be jumping to pick up double red eye jungle turn 4 days on trade boards? Nah, I'll just drop it and be done with it.
Here is the difference: "I got my schedule, im going to drop this 3 day trip so I can take a trip" vs "I got my schedule, ill post it on the trade board, of someone wants my double jungle turn redeye, I can go on that trip" And sure, im all for more PTO, doesnt mean im giving up industry leading drop provisions for it. I'll take both, thanks. Also us not having “drop to 50” or “drop to zero but must finish the month with XX” means more pilots are willing to float trips out in open time because they aren’t worried about the company forcing trips back on them to meet a credit target. This is why even if you never in your NK career drop to zero credit, it still benefits you. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3636775)
He was doing steep turns in a 172 when our guys were fighting for our current red/green in arbitration. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know.
Most don’t understand the pain experienced when the company was blatantly ignoring the red/green language that we had to fight for all the way to winning arbitration to just keep what was negotiated. |
Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1
(Post 3636736)
don’t have to drop if you want to swap it. A red eye jungle turn I’d swap and if I couldn’t find anything to swap I’ll call out sick. Again plenty of options to get out of a trip with NEEDING to drop to zero.
You can Jumpseat or non rev on a sick call sport |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 3636812)
Exactly this.
Also us not having “drop to 50” or “drop to zero but must finish the month with XX” means more pilots are willing to float trips out in open time because they aren’t worried about the company forcing trips back on them to meet a credit target. This is why even if you never in your NK career drop to zero credit, it still benefits you. That said I will be using drop to zero this summer and that plan starts today. I’ll still work a little but when and where I want. Your kids are only in a window for a short time of old enough to travel easily, and young enough that they don’t have other commitments like many teens do. YOLO |
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
(Post 3636824)
Your kids are only in a window for a short time of old enough to travel easily, and young enough that they don’t have other commitments like many teens do. YOLO
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