Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3662237)

I hate to break it to you but calendar day is industry standard and it is coming. You are gonna run out of soap boxes.

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3662269)

No doubt. And so is losing DTZ R/G 4day. it was fun while it lasted. It would have been much easier to keep without JB, but no one asked me.
Let me riddle you this though. If everything is industry standard, why does every company still have its own CBA?
If industry standard means we lose all the good stuff, but we can't get the pay, maybe industry standard isn't helping us.

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3662269)

No doubt. And so is losing DTZ R/G 4day. it was fun while it lasted. It would have been much easier to keep without JB, but no one asked me.
Let me riddle you this though. If everything is industry standard, why does every company still have its own CBA?
If industry standard means we lose all the good stuff, but we can't get the pay, maybe industry standard isn't helping us.

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3662269)

No doubt. And so is losing DTZ R/G 4day. it was fun while it lasted. It would have been much easier to keep without JB, but no one asked me.
Let me riddle you this though. If everything is industry standard, why does every company still have its own CBA?
If industry standard means we lose all the good stuff, but we can't get the pay, maybe industry standard isn't helping us.

Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3662525)

Red/green is not going anywhere

Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3662548)

Thats 100% accurate. Zero chance our NC and/or MEC gives that arbitrated language away, they will die on that hill. You never give away arbitrated language as strong as our red green language.

Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3662525)

Red/green is not going anywhere

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3661788)

yes, in NB you select waive, drop-down has waive to 3,2,1 options.
no, 4 days off is for QOL not credit.
yes, my situation exactly, for home bound to weekly schedule, for commute prefer 4 days, so waive to 3.

Not waiving will mostly get you more days off in your initial award, requirements to have open time, and people using IOT for dropping will give junior people a lot of options to change their schedule in DOT.
Requirement for the company to only be able to use one number for minimum reserve required across the whole month (with the exception for a few specific days a year), with the requirement that 75% of the days need to be green, and the option to have red on red day trades gives everyone options most of the time.
No requirement to ever have a certain credit level means if you need more time off, it’s normally not that hard.
The way our premium is build and handed out means generally very good pay for very little work, most of the premium I’ve done, I will get 20 hours of pay, and as a commuter am gone from my home less than 24 hours.
Most of our rules lean towards less work, not more credit, and that is why people came to NK over SWA.

I have never done PBS at another airline, so for all I know, JB could be superior in every of these categories, and that is why we should keep comparing here, so we both figure out what we need to keep most.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3662798)

Not a fan of the way Lincoln is conducting himself or addressing the discussion. Maybe less of him?

Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3663188)

I will address the discussion however I want. However, if you would like to cry about it some more my door's always open. ;)