Wow, you are a stage-4 clinger, no doubt. And a class 1 ball-bag.

We have hundreds of legacy furloughs, that have seen both models, and elected not to return after the recalls. Our (JB) pay and benefits has, at times, exceeded legacy pay. This industry is ALWAYS changing and shifting. No airline has EVER been at the top and stayed there. Good luck with your giant ego, I have no doubt you wear your hat while at the controls, even if your legacy doesn't have a hat.

And whether you are trying to criticize NK or JB, it is highly likely the two will be coming together in the coming months, and achieving a JCBA that meets or EXCEEDS the big four.

So this is either the worst attempt at trolling I've seen in memory or you are as stupid as you are arrogant.

Maybe it’s more cope than justification. It’s the response I have heard multiple times.

I can’t say I’m surprised that I am getting pushback for telling pilots they should be paid as much as their peers.

Exactly. You get it. I hope everyone brings this attitude instead of making excuses.

one of the dumbest posts I’ve read on a forum that has posters like dOOfff to compete against

Blastin over WATRS, looking at nothing but open ocean and the stars, 235 SOBs, I remember thinking to myself I should make less than the people moving less people in the same plane on the exact same route because our seats are thin and a couple of the passengers have face tattoos.

I just brought my popcorn and came by here for the comments. This is getting entertaining!

I know who you are. I had to slap your hands off the controls. Still mad huh?

The ULCC business model is flawed; the legacies have countered ULCCs by matching their fares with Basic Economy. And the legacies skim off the ULCC's (profitable) top fare buckets so that ULCCs aren't able to be much more than marginally profitable. The legacies will let ULCCs run their $29 loss leader sales all day long, but start matching ULCC fares as soon as the fare gets close to $100.

This is how I see it as well. And the full service airlines are generally expanding their Basic Economy offerings, especially United.

As a former LCC pilot, I take your point. There have been points in history where a particular pilot may be better off at a LCC.

Fact is, those times are the exception and not the norm. Your post raised another point. NK and B6 have guys furloughed from legacy carriers. They didn’t just get up and decide to leave.

No doubt, they’ve done very well for themselves, but the fact is that almost all the movement is from LCC to a legacy.

Should LCC guys get paid legacy rates? Absolutely. But it’s going to take time, and in that time, some opt to just go to a legacy and get the money now. All things being equal, they’ll come out ahead. They’re not any better just because their airline has been around longer.