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CatPilot1 05-06-2024 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by CRJCapitan (Post 3799202)
AA's single biggest objective has been to reduce its dissipating mountain of debt. I don't think AA management has interest in adding back to it by absorbing Spirit's current financial situation.

Maybe to make room for new debt that includes a bunch of experienced seat meat.

Noisecanceller 05-06-2024 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by CRJCapitan (Post 3799202)
AA's single biggest objective has been to reduce its dissipating mountain of debt. I don't think AA management has interest in adding back to it by absorbing Spirit's current financial situation.

No one is.

Noisecanceller 05-06-2024 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3799208)
Maybe to make room for new debt that includes a bunch of experienced seat meat.

They are filling classes just fine and with a ton of spirit guys willing to start at the bottom of the list on year 1 pay

CatPilot1 05-06-2024 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3799219)
They are filling classes just fine and with a ton of spirit guys willing to start at the bottom of the list on year 1 pay


Still cheaper to acquire than hire. Especially with all the Spirit goodies that come along with a purchase!
Plus with a large influx of seat meat they could drop most of the Enoy pay incentives.

StoneQOLdCrazy 05-06-2024 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3799222)
Still cheaper to acquire than hire. Especially with all the Spirit goodies that come along with a purchase!
Plus with a large influx of seat meat they could drop most of the Enoy pay incentives.

How good is your contractual fragmentation language?

CatPilot1 05-06-2024 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 3799230)
How good is your contractual fragmentation language?

Just ask the front desk lady at the Holiday Express I stayed at. Where do you stand my boy?

Noisecanceller 05-06-2024 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3799222)
Still cheaper to acquire than hire. Especially with all the Spirit goodies that come along with a purchase!
Plus with a large influx of seat meat they could drop most of the Enoy pay incentives.

How is it cheaper to acquire than hire at year one pay? Why do you think back in the day the legacies would constantly move the RJs around to recycle the same pilots from company to company and start them over?

What spirit goodies? HQ? What else?

leased airplanes, an Everest of debt, and…

CatPilot1 05-06-2024 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3799260)
How is it cheaper to acquire than hire at year one pay? Why do you think back in the day the legacies would constantly move the RJs around to recycle the same pilots from company to company and start them over?

What spirit goodies? HQ? What else?

leased airplanes, an Everest of debt, and…

Boeing issues are only going to get worse, not to mention Airbus and Pratt aren't getting any better. . There’s like 10 new Boeing whistle blowers coming forward even with the other 2 being murdred. The legacies can buy whomever they want when ever they want. Who knows how many palms they greased to block the Spirit merger.

SoFloFlyer 05-06-2024 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3799276)
Boeing issues are only going to get worse, not to mention Airbus and Pratt aren't getting any better. . There’s like 10 new Boeing whistle blowers coming forward even with the other 2 being murdred. The legacies can buy whomever they want when ever they want. Who knows how many palms they greased to block the Spirit merger.

Kirby is on record saying that buying another carrier is not in the cards. An average merger takes about 3 years. In the span of 3 years, we United expects to grow to the size of Spirit and Frontier combined without all the hassle and debt accumulation

CatPilot1 05-06-2024 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3799310)
Kirby is on record saying that buying another carrier is not in the cards. An average merger takes about 3 years. In the span of 3 years, we United expects to grow to the size of Spirit and Frontier combined without all the hassle and debt accumulation

Dont think I mentioned anything about United, or its creepy short leader.


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