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MisterNarwhal 03-23-2024 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3784103)
I agree, but where are the letters? I expected WARN notices the day after we pulled out of the appeal.

I did, too. The longer the company waits to F us, the less they would benefit from it.

In the spirit of stoking other rumors, could a potential purchase by Frontier or Southwest have implications the company's decision to furlough?

checkgear 03-23-2024 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by MisterNarwhal (Post 3784835)
I did, too. The longer the company waits to F us, the less they would benefit from it.

In the spirit of stoking other rumors, could a potential purchase by Frontier or Southwest have implications the company's decision to furlough?

You really think there’s a chance of a merger with WN? Their point-to-point system would be much harder with 2 fleets and any hiccup could really screw the pooch operationally. Maybe I’m just being a pessimist.

Cyio 03-24-2024 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by checkgear (Post 3784864)
You really think there’s a chance of a merger with WN? Their point-to-point system would be much harder with 2 fleets and any hiccup could really screw the pooch operationally. Maybe I’m just being a pessimist.

As someone from NK and now at WN, I would have loved to get you all over here, great group indeed, however, I have to agree that the last thing WN needs now is another aircraft with issues, plus we don't need larger planes, we need smaller. While I once thought it was a possibility, I think the only avenue for us is something akin to a Breeze or making a move on Hawaiin. While Hawaiin doesn't have a glut of small planes, they do have heavies, something that would allow us to expand if leadership went that route. This is all conjecture however as I am not an airline CEO and honestly have no idea of all the nuances and complexities something like this entails.

TheBear 03-24-2024 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3784120)
Retired and resigned are two quite different words. This guy has been in the game a long time, good for him to retire and spend more time with his family. If that’s his choice and that’s what he wants to do. Doesn’t mean we’re headed in nose down spiral to disaster. Some have been screaming and crying furlough for months and months. I just don’t buy it. I truly don’t believe there will be a need for it. That would be a very permanent decision for a very temporary problem. So in my opinion, the only thing “guaranteed about furloughs” are that they are rumors and nothing more.


Why is it that all executives always leave “to spend more time with their family” and yet end up at other jobs 😏

Born2FlyAv8R 03-24-2024 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by TheBear (Post 3785036)
Why is it that all executives always leave “to spend more time with their family” and yet end up at other jobs 😏

who knows - maybe they don’t enjoy the downtime as much as they thought. I know PLENTY of people who retire looking forward to the free time and then immediately realize they cant stand the freetime. Or maybe it’s an excuse they can use to leave without confrontation. But it does happen.

TransWorld 03-25-2024 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by TheBear (Post 3785036)
Why is it that all executives always leave “to spend more time with their family” and yet end up at other jobs 😏


In the old days, in business, when there is not something like this going on, it was announced, "John Doe is resigning to pursue other interests."

Runaround 03-25-2024 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by TheBear (Post 3785036)
Why is it that all executives always leave “to spend more time with their family” and yet end up at other jobs 😏

I imagine it is a face saving measure. If the executive is being let go, it is easier than airing out his/her dirty laundry and risking a possible lawsuit. Or in the current case of our Spirit executives it makes the company look better than the unvarnished truth: Bob originally planned to stay a few more years and make bank with his stock options, but since those are in the toilet he is cutting bait and moving on. Don't panic, everything is alright!

MisterNarwhal 03-25-2024 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by checkgear (Post 3784864)
You really think there’s a chance of a merger with WN? Their point-to-point system would be much harder with 2 fleets and any hiccup could really screw the pooch operationally. Maybe I’m just being a pessimist.

Even if WN is farfetched, F9 might not be. I was moreso wondering how a merger, regardless of who it might be with, would affect the company's strategy as it relates to potential furloughs.

PineappleXpres 03-25-2024 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by MisterNarwhal (Post 3785491)
Even if WN is farfetched, F9 might not be. I was moreso wondering how a merger, regardless of who it might be with, would affect the company's strategy as it relates to potential furloughs.

Cash burn. Worry about the other stuff later. The problem is you are a seperate entity until the marriage and still need to function.


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3785025)
As someone from NK and now at WN, I would have loved to get you all over here, great group indeed, however, I have to agree that the last thing WN needs now is another aircraft with issues, plus we don't need larger planes, we need smaller. While I once thought it was a possibility, I think the only avenue for us is something akin to a Breeze or making a move on Hawaiin. While Hawaiin doesn't have a glut of small planes, they do have heavies, something that would allow us to expand if leadership went that route. This is all conjecture however as I am not an airline CEO and honestly have no idea of all the nuances and complexities something like this entails.

Aren't we already Alaska's, pending the DOJ?

AerChungus 03-25-2024 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3785495)
Aren't we already Alaska's, pending the DOJ?

Most recent news I heard was that the board said they were willing to entertain any offer before the DOJ approves it.

Source: https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-travel/...aits-approval/


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