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BusBoi 07-01-2024 02:31 PM

So anyways, I saw an email from the union today that the comapny is starting to offer cancellations of some furloughs. A good sign?

TallyTarget64 07-01-2024 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3816348)
So anyways, I saw an email from the union today that the comapny is starting to offer cancellations of some furloughs. A good sign?

my guess (and this is just my theory) is that some of those reps who had CJOs can’t leave now with legacy classes full or cancelled, so they found a way to get the their jobs back.

sioux8ships 07-01-2024 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by TallyTarget64 (Post 3816355)
my guess (and this is just my theory) is that some of those reps who had CJOs can’t leave now with legacy classes full or cancelled, so they found a way to get the their jobs back.


Most likely.. screwing the jr guys that actually need this job.

rickair7777 07-01-2024 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by TallyTarget64 (Post 3816355)
my guess (and this is just my theory) is that some of those reps who had CJOs can’t leave now with legacy classes full or cancelled, so they found a way to get the their jobs back.

How does that work? More people stay should = more furloughs, not less.

BusBoi 07-01-2024 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3816390)
How does that work? More people stay should = more furloughs, not less.

That's a possibility. But regardless of the reason the company is cancelling some furloughs.

Halon1211 07-01-2024 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3816393)
That's a possibility. But regardless of the reason the company is cancelling some furloughs.

I haven’t been able to talk to the airplane cleaners or on the Flight Attendant forums yet to get the details but I wonder how many they will cancel. And does the mean a reduce in the numbers they want to displace? And what bases?

new head honchos coming on board. Maybe they have a plan and need more pilots?


TallyTarget64 07-01-2024 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3816390)
How does that work? More people stay should = more furloughs, not less.

furloughs are from the bottom up. The senior guys who bid to voluntarily furlough that could’ve saved a new guy his job are now getting the opportunity to cancel that and stay with the company and go to one of 4 bases listed. Looks like there will also be another vacancy bid in September with the opportunity to move around once things get situated. More attrition means less furloughs needed, but it is MY opinion that all this came about recently due to the legacies cancelling class for the rest of the year and maybe some reps are scrambling to take back their vol fur.

crunchpunch 07-01-2024 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by TallyTarget64 (Post 3816404)
furloughs are from the bottom up. The senior guys who bid to voluntarily furlough that could’ve saved a new guy his job are now getting the opportunity to cancel that and stay with the company and go to one of 4 bases listed. Looks like there will also be another vacancy bid in September with the opportunity to move around once things get situated. More attrition means less furloughs needed, but it is MY opinion that all this came about recently due to the legacies cancelling class for the rest of the year and maybe some reps are scrambling to take back their vol fur.

The language for cancelling furloughs was negotiated in the MOU, which came out before American cancelled their hiring.

checkgear 07-01-2024 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by crunchpunch (Post 3816410)
The language for cancelling furloughs was negotiated in the MOU, which came out before American cancelled their hiring.

Yep exactly, people obviously can’t read. The union email was clarification that if attrition is higher than planned, furloughs will be cancelled in seniority order. Those who choose to return in the event their furlough is cancelled get to bid for a base until the next vacancy is awarded. First cancellation notification will be this Friday for those willing to participate. Furloughs are still happening…

93Sierra 07-01-2024 09:24 PM

Well our new CFO has a great reputation! He’s the head of a manufacturer that doesn’t make commercial airplanes anymore, and every airline on his resume doesn’t exist today.


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