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11-21-2024 | 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Force One

They were opposed to 65 too. Then when it became obvious that it was going to pass, they suddenly were in support.

They had a reason to do that... a seat at the table so they could get some reasonable guard-rails baked into the legislation. Such as people under age 65 who had already retired were not entitled to return with seniority intact.

I was somewhat concerned this last time that they appeared to not be engaging the opposition... if the legislation had gotten through it might have been half-baked in some ways.

11-21-2024 | 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Force One

They were opposed to 65 too. Then when it became obvious that it was going to pass, they suddenly were in support.

The way I remember last time alpa was opposed to 65 after a vote (that I participated in) failed something like 60-40. Then several legacies lost pensions. Another vote (that I didn’t participate in) passed. That’s why they were then in support. It was a while ago so I could be wrong?

11-21-2024 | 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 69fastback

I don’t recall ALPA asking us our opinion on it. I do remember them telling me that I oppose it though.

They did and you do

11-21-2024 | 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stayontarget

Why don’t they worry about ATC retirement age first?

This is just like the majority of the American working population saying I don’t get that pay, that benefit, that retirement. Unions are bad! Every time a union contract comes up in the news.

Just because we are facing a threat doesn’t mean we should point the gun at an ally.

11-21-2024 | 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by putzin

And it’s back.

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news...retirement-age

I get older and these crotchety old *******s stay the same age

11-21-2024 | 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Yes ALPA is opposed and I applaud them fdor representing the vast majority of their members' preference on the issue. That's their job.

Again, I guess I missed where they alsed us the question, in order to determine “the vast majority.”

I do recall them telling me that I oppose it.

11-21-2024 | 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 69fastback

Again, I guess I missed where they alsed us the question, in order to determine “the vast majority.”

I do recall them telling me that I oppose it.

Again, you were surveyed and you do oppose it

11-21-2024 | 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

Again, you were surveyed and you do oppose it

I may oppose it, or I may not, but I was defintely never asked. Only told, but that’s the way ALPA works.

11-21-2024 | 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 69fastback

I may oppose it, or I may not, but I was defintely never asked. Only told, but that’s the way ALPA works.

Again, you were asked. If you chose to delete the email that’s on you

11-21-2024 | 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

Again, you were asked. If you chose to delete the email that’s on you

😂 okay, skippy. Thanks for taking the ALPA stance of telling me what I do, and don’t, want. Along with what I have, and have not recieved. I’ll be sure to ask you and ALPA what else I need. Hey, can you tell me what date I was sent this email, and why it’s not in my ALPA folder of my email account? Thanks

Telling someone about their personal info is a good way of saying you’re a narcissist, without saying you’re a narcissist.