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Originally Posted by VacancyBid
(Post 3854445)
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This is the key slide. It shows the pivot from $50-$150 fares to $200-$400 fares. If you do a little math, they are looking to dump $1 billion in revenue from their current customer base and pick up $1.5 billion from the new upmarket crowd. Put another way, they're basically looking to totally abandon their current customers and swap for a totally new group of consumers. Napkin math: for the first 6 months of the year, NK lost $350M, flying 12M people at $108/person. Breaking even would have required another $30/person. Focussing on getting an extra $50 has a better chance than focussing on an extra $500... |
Originally Posted by BKbigfish
(Post 3854542)
That’s what the BFS and blocked middle premium seating are in the short term. From what I can tell seat pitch will supposedly change (at least in the premium section) starting in 2025. Along with in seat power? Who knows. I’ve yet to see this management team implement anything effectively. One would think in order to work these cabin configuration changes would need to take place in relatively short order so that higher end customers giving the new product a try wouldn’t get frustrated at an inconsistent product and bail back to the legacies.
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Originally Posted by gonyon
(Post 3854651)
You’re right increased seat pitch was mentioned. That would probably require fewer seats. I think it would take actually offering different seats in addition to the added leg room. We have two hour seats. They are absolutely miserable beyond that amount of time.
This is all smoke and mirrors. The bond holders know then’ll make more money selling the assets piecemeal than all at once via chapter 7 liquidation. So they injected some money to keep the operation going while they figure out how to lose less money. This injection was to avoid chapt 7 and was a lifeline. Now they actually take control of the company, which is a big deal; they can start selling off everything. Ted's job is to get $3.8m bonus to ride it to the end and keep order here, not create panic Ted got his parachute ahead of time. |
Originally Posted by CatPilot1
(Post 3854659)
This is all smoke and mirrors. The bond holders know then’ll make more money selling the assets piecemeal than all at once via chapter 7 liquidation. So they injected some money to keep the operation going while they figure out how to lose less money.
This injection was to avoid chapt 7 and was a lifeline. Now they actually take control of the company, which is a big deal; they can start selling off everything. Ted's job is to get $3.8m bonus to ride it to the end and keep order here, not create panic Ted got his parachute ahead of time. |
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3854701)
What assets?
As for dollar general vs target. True, the old crowd didn't pay all the bills, but they paid 95%. Throw them out and now nobody is paying the bills UNTIL the target shoppers show up. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3854603)
Which is why you’ll never see business travel on us.
Simply, the he clientele Spirit is seeking won’t fly Spirit because its Spirit. Spirit needs a new name, period. The name Spirit is always the punchline, right before the drum fill “ba dum dum”. Pinnacle Airlines changed their name to Endeavor after emerging from Chapter 11. Spirit needs to do the same. Sadly, we don’t even have the cash to slap a new name on a plane. |
Originally Posted by CatPilot1
(Post 3854659)
This is all smoke and mirrors. The bond holders know then’ll make more money selling the assets piecemeal than all at once via chapter 7 liquidation. So they injected some money to keep the operation going while they figure out how to lose less money.
This injection was to avoid chapt 7 and was a lifeline. Now they actually take control of the company, which is a big deal; they can start selling off everything. Ted's job is to get $3.8m bonus to ride it to the end and keep order here, not create panic Ted got his parachute ahead of time. |
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
(Post 3854765)
Explain how they control the company? Are they getting 51% of the equity for their forgiven $800m in debt and $300M in cash?
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Originally Posted by VacancyBid
(Post 3854780)
I think they're getting all of it. That's the deal. Current stock goes away - new stock goes to bondholders.
It would be nice if ALPA could break down the ownership of the company in “the plan” upon exiting bankruptcy in March. |
Originally Posted by VacancyBid
(Post 3854780)
I think they're getting all of it. That's the deal. Current stock goes away - new stock goes to bondholders.
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