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Old 01-15-2025 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R
Well sadly, my thoughts exactly. I wondered if there was any “exemption” to wrongful termination or anything like that if done while in bankruptcy. Much easier to say “we were struggling and needing to operate with a barebones operation to help the company with cost savings, so cuts were necessary”. Once out of BK, it would seem to be harder to
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Assuming at-will employment, the employer can always eliminate jobs, BK or making profits hand-over-fist. No practical claim by ex-employees if their job is eliminated.

If an employee is fired, and their job is filled by someone else, then you'd need some reasonable basis, progressive discipline, PIP, etc

But (legit) layoffs don't require any justification at all, impersonal business decision.

When I did fortune 500 white collar, we *always* had a layoff list (in priority order) ready to go because the C-suite might give middle managers 24 hours to decide who to keep and who to cut. The jobs themselves would often get completely redefined to match up with the folks who kept their jobs, and the work that had to get done.

So the theory is that layoffs are done by job/position, the reality is that it still comes down to personalities in many cases. Sometimes they just shutter a whole division or something like that, then you know it's fair because everybody got canned.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 03:45 PM
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I heard that crew train, crew plan, and crew pay are all being done away with.

If it's even true, those would have to be replaced with another type of support system.
what does that tell you? If you aren’t actively trying to get out…you prolly should. I knew a lot of those folks in training, all fantastic people. Sad ito see it’s going down this way. Good luck to all my former NK peeps.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 04:04 PM
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When do Christie and Bendo get the axe? They’re the problem.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 04:14 PM
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When do Christie and Bendo get the axe? They’re the problem.
When they lock the doors behind them for the final time congratulating themselves on trying their best against all odds to save it.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
I heard that crew train, crew plan, and crew pay are all being done away with.

If it's even true, those would have to be replaced with another type of support system.
None of that is true.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 05:22 PM
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Is now the right time to buy a couple Gs worth of SAVEQ?
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Old 01-15-2025 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
I heard that crew train, crew plan, and crew pay are all being done away with.

If it's even true, those would have to be replaced with another type of support system.
If there's truth to that, the other type of support system would probably be an acquiring airline's training dept. Presumably an airbus training dept.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowBus
None of that is true.
I'd be fairly surprised if it were, but it's just what I heard from someone who got fired, who heard it from someone else.

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Old 01-15-2025 | 06:11 PM
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Anyone know if SF, the old director of pilot hiring, is still at Spirit?
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Old 01-15-2025 | 06:36 PM
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Is Ted's bonus safe? That's all that really matters in these trying times.
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