80 Million workforce reduction
01-16-2025 | 08:20 AM
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01-16-2025 | 09:11 AM
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Delta uses a lot of non seniority instructors a lot of them never even flew the line for Delta at all. Lots of retired US Airways and Air Tran guys. And retired in house pilots as well.
01-16-2025 | 11:07 AM
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01-16-2025 | 12:01 PM
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You can see from above that SWA, UAL and DAL all use non seniority list pilots to do flight training. Again, its a benefit to us.
01-16-2025 | 12:55 PM
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I know Jyri tried to threaten the check airman group years back over this, he wanted to bring in a bunch of Riddle kids and 78 year old retired pilots to come and do sims, it was shot down. I would say it isnt normal for airlines to have in their CBAs that only seniority list pilots can do flight training. It is a great benefit to all of us that those checking and training us are the same ones flying on the line.
You can see from above that SWA, UAL and DAL all use non seniority list pilots to do flight training. Again, its a benefit to us.
You can see from above that SWA, UAL and DAL all use non seniority list pilots to do flight training. Again, its a benefit to us.
All full flight sims and training/checking done in those are done by seniority list pilots. If you are being trained/checked on any flight procedure it is being done by a current UA pilot. So, this translates into over 1000 pilots working at our training center in Denver.
Having seniority list instructors is both better for the training and better for the pilot group in the job security world!
01-16-2025 | 03:14 PM
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Not sure about other airlines, but at UAL there is a very clear line in the sand of who does what in the training center. For us that means that ground school/systems classroom training and Fixed Base Trainers that are used for ground procedures such as engine starting and the like can be done by non-seniority list instructors.
All full flight sims and training/checking done in those are done by seniority list pilots. If you are being trained/checked on any flight procedure it is being done by a current UA pilot. So, this translates into over 1000 pilots working at our training center in Denver.
Having seniority list instructors is both better for the training and better for the pilot group in the job security world!
All full flight sims and training/checking done in those are done by seniority list pilots. If you are being trained/checked on any flight procedure it is being done by a current UA pilot. So, this translates into over 1000 pilots working at our training center in Denver.
Having seniority list instructors is both better for the training and better for the pilot group in the job security world!
01-16-2025 | 03:46 PM
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Keeping that nugget in C2018 took forever to TA precisely because of Jyrinal and the like. They wanted everything outsourced like most airlines. The fact that some here don't realize it's contractual makes me wonder what else they don't know... 🤔😕
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