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DirkDiggler9999 01-29-2025 10:58 AM

WN made an offer for F9 several years ago. Once the offer was made, it allowed WN to look under the hood. WN took a look and stood with their offer. Brian Bedford came in and bought F9. Didn't go so well. It is funny to see some of these comments without regard of airlines simply doing business. We never know what the thought process is in a purchase offer. Rule number 2, never take financial from a pilot. Rule number 1 concerns marital advice. We should always hope for the best for our industry brothers and sisters. In the end, its all just dumb luck.

Born2FlyAv8R 01-29-2025 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by checkgear (Post 3876461)
Don’t mind him, he’s just mad his seniority will get annihilated in the SLI.

Nobody knew about this offer until the NDA expired, how many other deals could currently still be under an NDA?

You’re absolutely right. I’d bet money on it.




8JRMfortheyear 01-29-2025 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999 (Post 3876462)
WN made an offer for F9 several years ago. Once the offer was made, it allowed WN to look under the hood. WN took a look and stood with their offer. Brian Bedford came in and bought F9. Didn't go so well. It is funny to see some of these comments without regard of airlines simply doing business. We never know what the thought process is in a purchase offer. Rule number 2, never take financial from a pilot. Rule number 1 concerns marital advice. We should always hope for the best for our industry brothers and sisters. In the end, its all just dumb luck.


this right here.

69fastback 01-29-2025 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876460)
post merger? There’s no merger. There was an offer. It was declined. Barry said “they’re going to continue to engage with spirit”

And let’s be clear. NK pilots are just as self interested as F9 pilots. Plenty of NK pilots when JBLu stuck its beak in back in 2022 we’re wayyyyy more interested in them. Suddenly the F9NK shotgun wedding wasn’t so cool any more. Plenty stuck their noses up, and continue to stick their noses up.

So you can talk all you want about unity. When the shoe is on the other foot, it’s all about “synergies” and “strong pilot groups”.

F that. Your sh&t stinks. Any amount paid is too much.


Why are you so angry? Have you considered therapy?

LinaPeru 01-29-2025 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by 69fastback (Post 3876518)
Why are you so angry? Have you considered therapy?

you see this is exactly what I meant. When your ass is on the chopping block it’s pilot unity. But when the other side says otherwise it’s why are you so angry?

Not a fan of NK. We aren’t long lost brothers in arms. I don’t wish you harm, but not everyone is desperate for this merger.

69fastback 01-29-2025 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876534)
you see this is exactly what I meant. When your ass is on the chopping block it’s pilot unity. But when the other side says otherwise it’s why are you so angry?

Not a fan of NK. We aren’t long lost brothers in arms. I don’t wish you harm, but not everyone is desperate for this merger.

There are ways of saying thing without being……angry. Best of luck to you.

CatPilot1 01-29-2025 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876534)
you see this is exactly what I meant. When your ass is on the chopping block it’s pilot unity. But when the other side says otherwise it’s why are you so angry?

Not a fan of NK. We aren’t long lost brothers in arms. I don’t wish you harm, but not everyone is desperate for this merger.

The decision makers at your company are desperate for this merger, so you should probably start realizing you don’t know sh:t; and maybe start feeling desperate too.

gonyon 01-29-2025 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876534)
you see this is exactly what I meant. When your ass is on the chopping block it’s pilot unity. But when the other side says otherwise it’s why are you so angry?

Not a fan of NK. We aren’t long lost brothers in arms. I don’t wish you harm, but not everyone is desperate for this merger.

let me know when the C suite or board members of either company ask any of us for our opinions or votes.

Born2FlyAv8R 01-29-2025 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876534)
you see this is exactly what I meant. When your ass is on the chopping block it’s pilot unity. But when the other side says otherwise it’s why are you so angry?

Not a fan of NK. We aren’t long lost brothers in arms. I don’t wish you harm, but not everyone is desperate for this merger.

there are many that do not share your sentiment. Don’t forget this has nothing to do with the pilots, all to do with management, bond holders, and business folks. But yes, most of the frontier pilots I’ve spoken with welcome a bigger stronger airline that can fight head to head with the legacies that seem to make the rules. I think most here were happy for the frontier merge the first time. It wasn’t our fault JB came and derailed it. It wasn’t our fault that the judge axed it, it’s also not our fault that the powers that be rejected the first offer. I think anyone here simply wants a good job, with good pay and QOL, and some security (if there is any in this business). What you won’t see is me coming to the Frontier section of this forum and taking a crap on frontier pilots. Which by my observation, is what it seems you are doing here. In the end, we’re all just little chess pieces being moved by our upper c suites and financiers, at their mercy. No need for us to act in anger towards eachother.

LinaPeru 01-29-2025 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3876540)
The decision makers at your company are desperate for this merger, so you should probably start realizing you don’t know sh:t; and maybe start feeling desperate too.

they made an offer it was rejected by your debt holders. PERIOD. They said they’ll keep discussing.

Don’t fancy yourself as any sort of fancy soothsayer that’s going to predict anything of significance about this merger or the future of the industry.


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