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afterburn81 01-29-2025 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876545)
they made an offer it was rejected by your debt holders. PERIOD. They said they’ll keep discussing.

Don’t fancy yourself as any sort of fancy soothsayer that’s going to predict anything of significance about this merger or the future of the industry.


I know who you’re angry with and it’s not the majority of NK guys. Bucking up is only going to make this worse. Yes. I’ve been through merger and SLI. In which there was some beef between the groups at the time. I’m willing to bet it’s inevitable. Should any merge become reality, resistance will be your biggest enemy.

Lincoln Osiris 01-29-2025 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876545)
they made an offer it was rejected by your debt holders. PERIOD. They said they’ll keep discussing.

Don’t fancy yourself as any sort of fancy soothsayer that’s going to predict anything of significance about this merger or the future of the industry.

he still mad

LinaPeru 01-29-2025 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3876542)
there are many that do not share your sentiment. Don’t forget this has nothing to do with the pilots, all to do with management, bond holders, and business folks. But yes, most of the frontier pilots I’ve spoken with welcome a bigger stronger airline that can fight head to head with the legacies that seem to make the rules. I think most here were happy for the frontier merge the first time. It wasn’t our fault JB came and derailed it. It wasn’t our fault that the judge axed it, it’s also not our fault that the powers that be rejected the first offer. I think anyone here simply wants a good job, with good pay and QOL, and some security (if there is any in this business). What you won’t see is me coming to the Frontier section of this forum and taking a crap on frontier pilots. Which by my observation, is what it seems you are doing here. In the end, we’re all just little chess pieces being moved by our upper c suites and financiers, at their mercy. No need for us to act in anger towards eachother.

That’s where you’re wrong. This absolutely affects F9 pilots. In a variety of ways.

offering more money for a broke company not finished with BK? Yeah because that doesn’t effect F9 pilots at all.
In the meantime F9 is still in the middle of contract negotiations with no signs of moving forward. But hey throw all this money at an NK merger instead. That’ll make it all better for F9. A process by the way that will take years to finalize.

Consolidate or die. That’s what you’re going o say next right? If you repeat it enough times it must be true. Because you can see 20 years into the future and tell us what this industry looks like. Most people on this forum can even remember 20 years behind them.

LinaPeru 01-29-2025 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3876550)
he still mad

you should be more mad at how F’d up your company is.

Lincoln Osiris 01-29-2025 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876554)
you should be more mad at how F’d up your company is.

He got even more mad. Quick bang on your keyboard in anger for papi.

LinaPeru 01-29-2025 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3876556)
He got even more mad. Quick bang on your keyboard in anger for papi.

These offers have already fallen through like 3 times. Hopefully it’ll keep on happening.

69fastback 01-29-2025 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876554)
you should be more mad at how F’d up your company is.


Why? We are here by choice, mostly. Everyone has the option to leave. Maybe it’s something to consider for you, because life is too short to spend it being angry.

Born2FlyAv8R 01-29-2025 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3876553)
That’s where you’re wrong. This absolutely affects F9 pilots. In a variety of ways.

offering more money for a broke company not finished with BK? Yeah because that doesn’t effect F9 pilots at all.
In the meantime F9 is still in the middle of contract negotiations with no signs of moving forward. But hey throw all this money at an NK merger instead. That’ll make it all better for F9. A process by the way that will take years to finalize.

Consolidate or die. That’s what you’re going o say next right? If you repeat it enough times it must be true. Because you can see 20 years into the future and tell us what this industry looks like. Most people on this forum can even remember 20 years behind them.

Im sorry - where did I say anywhere in that, that it doesn’t affect F9 pilots. Please show me - I’ll wait.

LinaPeru 01-29-2025 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by 69fastback (Post 3876558)
Why? We are here by choice, mostly. Everyone has the option to leave. Maybe it’s something to consider for you, because life is too short to spend it being angry.

you keep saying I’m mad. The only thing I’m mad about is F9 offering NK a single cent more until they’re out of BK. It should really be also until negotiations are done. But, that’ll never happen.

LinaPeru 01-29-2025 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3876560)
Im sorry - where did I say anywhere in that, that it doesn’t affect F9 pilots. Please show me - I’ll wait.

ok fair enough. Looks like you’re right. But the point still stands. This disproportionately affects F9. So why should someone be quiet about it.

also, plenty of your guys have come over to F9 forum dropping little nuggets of wisdom about how the model is dead, F9 is next, get out now, ULCC is done. Sorry I can’t post my opinion on the NK forum. Didn’t realize there was a no trespass sign here.

plenty of NK pilots on this forum have said all sorts of thing regarding not wanting to work for Frankie and indigo, or Barry, they were tired of the ULCC model, NK would be better off going alone in BK and trying to emerge as something better.

As far as I’m concerned this is as good of an opportunity as any. Have at it.


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