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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
No airline made any money in 2024 moving people. It all came from the credit card programs.
Not true at all. United had $4.6B in adjusted pre-tax profit in 2024. Only $3.5B was "other operating revenue".

Of the $3.5B "other operating revenue" that is made up of baggage fees, seat selection fees, in-flight entertainment, food and beverage sales, and other passenger-related services like United Club memberships, Revenue from the sale of frequent flyer miles to partners (e.g., credit card companies, hotels, or retailers) and other loyalty program-related activities. Fees for ground handling, maintenance, or other services provided to other airlines or entities at airports.

Even if half of that revenue is "credit card companies" United still did almost $3B in adjusted net profit in 2024. For "moving people".

Also that revenue comes at a cost, because it costs fuel, labor, administrative etc to transport those people around the system that converted their card point to miles for travel.

But keep saying it if it makes you feel better.

If the credit card revenue went away, those extra seats would just add to the current number of Basic Economy seats United would sell.
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Year 5 captain? You didn't start at Delta until 2023...
year 3, FIFY, good catch on my fat finger from my iPhone. This kind of attention to detail will serve you well in upcoming interviews. Exactly what we look for in Atlanta.
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:06 PM
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Man, the legacies really *were* scraping the bottom of the barrel post-covid, weren't they?
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GearedUp
year 3, FIFY, good catch on my fat finger from my iPhone. This kind of attention to detail will serve you well in upcoming interviews. Exactly what we look for in Atlanta.
Year 3 321 CA's make $342.78 an hour not $365.88. You can't keep your lies straight bruh.
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Year 3 321 CA's make $342.78 an hour not $365.88. You can't keep your lies straight bruh.
Its $359.88 for a 321 Year 3 CA. You are an idiot.
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GearedUp
I think we hit a sore spot. Guessing you are an ULCC pilot too. I fly my A321 for Delta for $365.88 an hour as a year 3 Captain. Your year 12 Captains do it for $270. I get a very large profit sharing check on V Day every year. Your pilots don't. I work for a company that values me. Your pilots don't. I chose to leave a sh!t stain airline that didn't value me, you and many other like you chose to stay. We fly the same airways and the same aircraft to the same cities. Your pilots just do it for about half the compensation I make every day. Life is full of choices. Enjoy yours and I'll enjoy mine.
Hold on there a second Delta. I see you guys in your forum every day whining about how your company doesn't respect you and wipes their butts with your contract and even gasp rampant intentional wage theft! So spare us the talk of airlines that respect you vs "sh*t stain airlines". No airline (or air line) respects pilots. We are all a necessary evil and a cost to be managed to them

Congrats on your ascension to the god like stature of a Fifth Year Delta A321 Captain. That doesn't give you the right to go back to your high school and crap all over the seniors because they aren't applying or getting accepted to Harvard.

Yeah I work for American. I didn't apply to Harvard because it seemed like way to much effort and then I'd have to put up with uptight Harvard a-holes every day. So I took the easy path to the state party school and I'm having a ball. I'm sure as hell not over on the Allegiant forum telling my coworkers they suck though I would love to see them win the 8 year contract fight and union fight they've been having and encouraged them to move on.
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by biigD
Man, the legacies really *were* scraping the bottom of the barrel post-covid, weren't they?
Oh it was way easier to get hired back when I got hired at Delta. Way tougher now, and soon going to be even tougher once the next round of furloughs hits.
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Year 3 321 CA's make $342.78 an hour not $365.88. You can't keep your lies straight bruh.

You guys both need to get a life.
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Hold on there a second Delta. I see you guys in your forum every day whining about how your company doesn't respect you and wipes their butts with your contract and even gasp rampant intentional wage theft! So spare us the talk of airlines that respect you vs "sh*t stain airlines". No airline (or air line) respects pilots. We are all a necessary evil and a cost to be managed to them

Congrats on your ascension to the god like stature of a Fifth Year Delta A321 Captain. That doesn't give you the right to go back to your high school and crap all over the seniors because they aren't applying or getting accepted to Harvard.
I disagree. Working for Spirit was like playing Tripple A baseball. Not even in the same league as far as the support you get and the tools you have to do the same job once you are at a Legacy.
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Old 07-21-2025 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Actually based on the current data Spirit won't run out of cash until August 2026...
So is that your plan? Way till next summer to leave? Leave another 2,000 numbers of seniority on the table?
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