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Old 12-15-2025 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hamandswiss
“A failure to access this funding on schedule would have dramatically increased the risk of a disorderly collapse.“
That's a great name for a garage band.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
good for now but it’s not exactly a vote of confidence.
I read this development as precisely the opposite of your take.

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Old 12-15-2025 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Q4 is Oct, Nov and Dec. Spirit is already $96M in the hole for Q4. They'd have to rebound pretty sharply to become profitable for the quarter. Also last year Frontier made about $40M in Q4 and Spirit lost $580M in Q4 so they don't really track each other like that. They have had over a year now since the first filing and they still haven't shed enough debt or restructured enough to find a way to make money. Anything can happen, but they are not starting off the quarter very well.
Spirit is going to be sold, and that has been the plan all along. What they’re doing now is uplifting their enterprise value and strengthening their failing‑firm defenses so anyone can buy them at the highest price possible, and the pilots now have a direct financial stake in that outcome.

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Old 12-15-2025 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by skipro101
I read this development as precisely the opposite of your take.
The full 100 million not being available is not a vote of confidence. The 50 million is being made available because of the labor savings is paying for it and does not reflect any confidence in the new business plan.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Freds Ex
The full 100 million not being available is not a vote of confidence. The 50 million is being made available because of the labor savings is paying for it and does not reflect any confidence in the new business plan.
It's not a problem.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyFlorida2025
Spirit is going to be sold, and that has been the plan all along. What they’re doing now is uplifting their enterprise value and strengthening their failing‑firm defenses so anyone can buy them at the highest price possible, and the pilots now have a direct financial stake in that outcome.
👆🏻this guy again.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Freds Ex
The full 100 million not being available is not a vote of confidence. The 50 million is being made available because of the labor savings is paying for it and does not reflect any confidence in the new business plan.
It honestly makes me wonder if the $50m is to get them thru the holiday season, because without it, ceasing operations before Christmas would be bad on many fronts.

The fact they only gave them $50m and the other $50m is tied to requirements does not bode well for confidence. Any time you pay "half now, half later" it's because you have doubt about the job getting done.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
It honestly makes me wonder if the $50m is to get them thru the holiday season, because without it, ceasing operations before Christmas would be bad on many fronts.

The fact they only gave them $50m and the other $50m is tied to requirements does not bode well for confidence. Any time you pay "half now, half later" it's because you have doubt about the job getting done.
No. It’s to get them to a merger with Frontier. Dave Davis will run the combined company.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
It honestly makes me wonder if the $50m is to get them thru the holiday season, because without it, ceasing operations before Christmas would be bad on many fronts.

The fact they only gave them $50m and the other $50m is tied to requirements does not bode well for confidence. Any time you pay "half now, half later" it's because you have doubt about the job getting done.
Not sure how ceasing before or after Christmas would give anyone calling the shots two poops.

I agree on the $50 mil. I was supposed to be $100 mil. They moved the goal post.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
No. It’s to get them to a merger with Frontier. Dave Davis will run the combined company.
Incorrect. TWA is buying us, and we’ll combine with Eastern. Frank Borman will run the combined company.
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