Pilot Furlough Recalls!
#82
Prime Minister/Moderator

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Basically a 1000 pilot airline with 76 airframes. Most pilots will be on the high end of the pay scale in each seat. Further concessions will have to come. Base closures and much more efficient and high flying schedules also. CC says something that makes sense. It’s all about perception. What is important to one pilot might not make sense to another. Priorities in every persons life is different too. Drive to work, collect a paycheck that keeps the lights on, and don’t compare your job with one at another airline. Very simple, if you’re game.
#84
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: Office Chair
Slow, but not stop. Lots of folks waiting on UA and AA classes. Once they force more people into commuting, attrition skyrockets again.
#85
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: Window seat
Actually, I am giving up a captain position at one of the largest 135 companies to come back. I need the 121 time and am late in a second career. Would love to see Spirit make it and stay, but also much greater chance of getting to a major if working the line and current.
There's no requirement to have 121 time. Is it better than 135? Yeah, they like it a tiny bit better but the BIGGEST thing they like is MEL TPIC. Period. Leaving a jet Part 135 PIC job to go back to a 121 FO job is not a resume enhancement.
Back in 2014 or 2015 a regional FO was coming up on his regional upgrade. Asked me if I thought he should take the 747 FO job offer he had instead? I said take the upgrade, it's the only criteria that they've specified get TPIC time and experience. But I walked over and asked the head of AA pilot recruiting and she said "we don't give career advice. That's up to them." Got it. I started walking away..."but you're giving good advice."
#86
On Reserve
Joined: Oct 2021
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From: CJ3 Captain, Spirit Furlough
Whoa. About the only thing the airlines say they WANT is 1000 hrs TPIC ('highly qualified') and 500 hrs TPIC ('competitive'). Left unsaid is multi-engine TPIC. #2 guy at a major - "not Caravan or PC-12 time...please."
There's no requirement to have 121 time. Is it better than 135? Yeah, they like it a tiny bit better but the BIGGEST thing they like is MEL TPIC. Period. Leaving a jet Part 135 PIC job to go back to a 121 FO job is not a resume enhancement.
Back in 2014 or 2015 a regional FO was coming up on his regional upgrade. Asked me if I thought he should take the 747 FO job offer he had instead? I said take the upgrade, it's the only criteria that they've specified get TPIC time and experience. But I walked over and asked the head of AA pilot recruiting and she said "we don't give career advice. That's up to them." Got it. I started walking away..."but you're giving good advice."
There's no requirement to have 121 time. Is it better than 135? Yeah, they like it a tiny bit better but the BIGGEST thing they like is MEL TPIC. Period. Leaving a jet Part 135 PIC job to go back to a 121 FO job is not a resume enhancement.
Back in 2014 or 2015 a regional FO was coming up on his regional upgrade. Asked me if I thought he should take the 747 FO job offer he had instead? I said take the upgrade, it's the only criteria that they've specified get TPIC time and experience. But I walked over and asked the head of AA pilot recruiting and she said "we don't give career advice. That's up to them." Got it. I started walking away..."but you're giving good advice."
#87
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I agree with what you are saying, I already have the TPIC to be highly qualified, problem is it is in a 14,000 pound Citation, tired of flying 3 hour legs in a small cabin with no lav to use. With my times more time in heavy aircraft, I feel will continue to round out my resume, but I hope Spirit can make it and I never have to leave.
#88
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
#89
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From: Window seat
I agree with what you are saying, I already have the TPIC to be highly qualified, problem is it is in a 14,000 pound Citation, tired of flying 3 hour legs in a small cabin with no lav to use. With my times more time in heavy aircraft, I feel will continue to round out my resume, but I hope Spirit can make it and I never have to leave.
#90
On Reserve
Joined: Oct 2023
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I didn't realize we’d hired a psychic. Since you’re so confident about the attrition rates and the October schedule, could you also let me know the winning lottery numbers? It’d be nice to have a backup plan for when your 'reduced attrition' theory inevitably changes again by May.
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