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Jdub2 05-01-2026 07:08 AM

WSJ has called it
 
Sorry boys

https://www.wsj.com/business/airline..._copyURL_share

yellowNEO 05-01-2026 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Jdub2 (Post 4029971)

Anyone have a non-paywalled article link (or copy & paste)? :(

NuGuy 05-01-2026 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by yellowNEO (Post 4029979)
Anyone have a non-paywalled article link (or copy & paste)? :(

There's nothing there. A few lines of "a developing story, updated has events warrant".

Tx Paratroopr 05-01-2026 07:18 AM

Hey look another pointless thread

westcoastj 05-01-2026 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Tx Paratroopr (Post 4029984)
Hey look another pointless thread


this thread depicts the actual end of spirit.

symbian simian 05-01-2026 07:26 AM

Spirit Airlines Prepares to Shut Down as Rescue Deal Falls Apart

A $500 million government bailout falters as the discount carrier runs low on cash and bondholders balk

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FollowUpdated May 1, 2026 11:17 am ET


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https://images.wsj.net/im-67739577?width=700&height=467A Spirit Airlines airplane takes off from Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Eva Marie Uzcategui/Bloomberg NewsSpirit Airlines is preparing to cease operations.

The ailing budget airline had been hoping to finalize a $500 million lifeline from the government before running out of cash. The discount carrier hasn’t been able to get sufficient support between certain bondholders and the government to secure the funding to keep it in business, people familiar with the matter said.

Spirit had been in talks with the Trump administration about a deal that would have provided a cash infusion in exchange for warrants that could convert into a stake of up to 90% of the company.

But there had been disagreements inside the Trump administration over whether and how to fund the bailout. And not all Spirit bondholders were on board with that deal, the people said. Meanwhile, the airline is facing relentless cost pressure from higher fuel prices.

Absent the government bailout, Spirit is running out of cash, so now the airline is moving forward with plans to liquidate its aircraft fleet and shut down, the people said. It wasn’t immediately clear what the specific timing of that might look like.

Spirit has spent much of the past year and a half in chapter 11. The business model that once made it an industry maverick—bringing its brand of bargain basement fares coupled with fees for pretty much everything—faced pressure from more intense competition. The airline buckled after years of losses and a heavy debt load.

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So, "The People Said". And "It wasn’t immediately clear what the specific timing of that might look like.".
Definitely overwhelming journalism. Can't wait for the updates

flier320 05-01-2026 07:31 AM

Where is the CalmCaptain with his longevity now??

69fastback 05-01-2026 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by flier320 (Post 4029998)
Where is the CalmCaptain with his longevity now??

seriously?

Tx Paratroopr 05-01-2026 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by westcoastj (Post 4029990)
this thread depicts the actual end of spirit.

There's already like 14 threads dedicated to that could have just posted it there.

rickair7777 05-01-2026 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 4029981)
There's nothing there. A few lines of "a developing story, updated has events warrant".

This is the WSJ, not www.aviationclickbaitblog.ru

They don't do sensationalism or clickbait, they use reliable sources, and they don't go off half-cocked. The subscription fee is $500/year and it's worth it.

symbian simian 05-01-2026 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030004)
This is the WSJ, not www.aviationclickbaitblog.ru

They don't do sensationalism or clickbait, they use reliable sources, and they don't go off half-cocked. The subscription fee is $500/year and it's worth it.

No source, no timeline.... 🤷

save $500 by using burner email addresses FTW

dera 05-01-2026 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 4030007)
No source, no timeline.... 🤷

save $500 by using burner email addresses FTW

They said their source in the article. People familiar with the matter. WSJ vets them so they know they actually are familiar. Obviously they won't be named.

If WSJ said it, unfortunately I'd say it's game over.

I doubt even the Spirit management knows yet what the exact timeline will be. They will look at where their planes are and where they need to be flown, what their air traffic liability is to maximize intake from CC processors for completed flights, they will coordinate timed comms with the unions so they all announce it around the same time, it's a 4D puzzle to come up with a plan and more often than not, the plan is announced with hours or sometimes a few days notice.


GutterGuard 05-01-2026 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030004)
This is the WSJ, not www.aviationclickbaitblog.ru

They don't do sensationalism or clickbait, they use reliable sources, and they don't go off half-cocked. The subscription fee is $500/year and it's worth it.

Paying $500/year for the WSJ is insane

CincoDeMayo 05-01-2026 07:49 AM

The amount of people with blinders on, still, it’s amazing. Some of you continue to yell at the windmills…crazy.

To those who are not fully in denial: please hit up your internals today and ask them to submit internal recs at other airlines, not just a LOR to be attached. At AA we can submit an internal rec that will be matched to the application on file. Sorry guys.

HelloNewnan 05-01-2026 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 4030014)
They said their source in the article. People familiar with the matter. WSJ vets them so they know they actually are familiar. Obviously they won't be named.

If WSJ said it, unfortunately I'd say it's game over.

I doubt even the Spirit management knows yet what the exact timeline will be. They will look at where their planes are and where they need to be flown, what their air traffic liability is to maximize intake from CC processors for completed flights, they will coordinate timed comms with the unions so they all announce it around the same time, it's a 4D puzzle to come up with a plan and more often than not, the plan is announced with hours or sometimes a few days notice.

Unfortunately, once that decision is made, they pivot from management to trustee, and the only goal is to secure assets. That leads to abrupt operational decisions that are rarely good for those caught in the middle. Doors are locked, accounts are closed, IDs "turned off", aircraft are secured.

Been on the end of one of those. Wound up getting jacked for a month's pay, and I had to rent a car to get home.

I'll keep the employees in my thoughts.

Smooth at FL450 05-01-2026 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by GutterGuard (Post 4030021)
Paying $500/year for the WSJ is insane

they offer you a steep discount when you attempt to cancel…just sayin

LTJ9 05-01-2026 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by HelloNewnan (Post 4030023)
Unfortunately, once that decision is made, they pivot from management to trustee, and the only goal is to secure assets. That leads to abrupt operational decisions that are rarely good for those caught in the middle. Doors are locked, accounts are closed, IDs "turned off", aircraft are secured.

Been on the end of one of those. Wound up getting jacked for a month's pay, and I had to rent a car to get home.

I'll keep the employees in my thoughts.

I still have a flight today. No email from management yet.

Chimpy 05-01-2026 07:58 AM

Has NK Mgmt put out a statement or are they being as worthless as usual? Pretty pathetic this is Being reported and nothing from mgmt. NK Pilots as professional as they are, can't be in the right headspace operating an Airbus while shortly after reading this article.

rickair7777 05-01-2026 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by GutterGuard (Post 4030021)
Paying $500/year for the WSJ is insane

I'd rather do that than rely on all of free garbage outlets with baked-in agendas. Also too lazy to jump through my digital arse every morning to access free article views.

Newsnation is OK as a wire service aggregator, but being free they do lean into some of the clickbait like UFO's and random missing persons. This morning is coed murders and Chandra Levy somehow linked to UFO's :rolleyes:

Reuters is OK too, but they seem to have gone back and forth on subs requirements.

FriendlyPilot 05-01-2026 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by HelloNewnan (Post 4030023)
Unfortunately, once that decision is made, they pivot from management to trustee, and the only goal is to secure assets. That leads to abrupt operational decisions that are rarely good for those caught in the middle. Doors are locked, accounts are closed, IDs "turned off", aircraft are secured.

Been on the end of one of those. Wound up getting jacked for a month's pay, and I had to rent a car to get home.

I'll keep the employees in my thoughts.

Did the paychecks get deposited into bank account today at least?

FettyWap 05-01-2026 08:00 AM

Might want to bang out sick and Jumpseat home if you are on a trip while you are still in CASS.

LTJ9 05-01-2026 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by FettyWap (Post 4030036)
Might want to bang out sick and Jumpseat home if you are on a trip while you are still in CASS.


Nah, spirit has been good to me for almost 15 years. Going to see it to the end.


I’ll figure out how to get home if it happens

rickair7777 05-01-2026 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by FettyWap (Post 4030036)
Might want to bang out sick and Jumpseat home if you are on a trip while you are still in CASS.


Originally Posted by LTJ9 (Post 4030038)
Nah, spirit has been good to me for almost 15 years. Going to see it to the end.


I’ll figure out how to get home if it happens

Other airlines will normally honor your badges for a couple days, even if they're switched off and removed from CASS (cabin seats only).

ROTORGUY 05-01-2026 08:04 AM

Sorry to hear this news guys. This is obviously not a shock to anyone. Hate to see anyone lose their jobs. I hope you all land on your feet soon. My Airline along with the other big 3 are all hiring. I hope priority for interviews is going to Spirt pilots. Wish you all the best.

symbian simian 05-01-2026 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by LTJ9 (Post 4030038)
Nah, spirit has been good to me for almost 15 years. Going to see it to the end.


I’ll figure out how to get home if it happens

NK was good to me for 12. So I didn't take the voluntary furlough when I left. They "repaid" that by not paying out my vacation time for the next year......

Chimpy 05-01-2026 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 4030034)
Did the paychecks get deposited into bank account today at least?

yes..............

DrJekyll MrHyde 05-01-2026 08:05 AM

Calling out sick mid-trip and getting home before you’re stuck somewhere sounds good but honestly I would want to operate one of the last flights if I were still there. The non-rev benefits won’t shutoff immediately and you could find your way home.

That airline has been a good home for a lot of pilots. I hope there’s a satisfying career in waiting for the Spirit pilots moving on. Good luck!

GutterGuard 05-01-2026 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030033)
I'd rather do that than rely on all of free garbage outlets with baked-in agendas. Also too lazy to jump through my digital arse every morning to access free article views.

Newsnation is OK as a wire service aggregator, but being free they do lean into some of the clickbait like UFO's and random missing persons. This morning is coed murders and Chandra Levy somehow linked to UFO's :rolleyes:

Reuters is OK too, but they seem to have gone back and forth on subs requirements.

Fair enough. I just had no idea that's what they're charging these days. I'm an airline pilot, I can barely afford free.

9thAmendment 05-01-2026 08:07 AM

If this was true the FAA would have pulled Spirit’s certificate already. Airlines aren’t allowed to slowly wind down at a future date for the obvious safety concerns involved in that. They just cease to exist all of the sudden.

My guess is this article was planted by a specific party in negotiations to apply pressure…again. We’ve seen that multiple times throughout this process. Even last week Spirit’s own attorney testified in court that Spirit would run out of cash by today if the government didn’t bail them out.

symbian simian 05-01-2026 08:09 AM

Well, it looks like most mainstream media agrees with the WSJ:

https://www.theguardian.com/business...er-failed-deal

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/tr...e/89890590007/

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/01/b...ting-down.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzanne...s-reports-say/

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/sp...lines-shutdown

https://www.independent.co.uk/us/mon...-b2969020.html

https://www.reuters.com/business/spi...ts-2026-05-01/

https://www.barrons.com/articles/spi...ilout-d0a826e2

HelloNewnan 05-01-2026 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030033)
I'd rather do that than rely on all of free garbage outlets with baked-in agendas. Also too lazy to jump through my digital arse every morning to access free article views.

Newsnation is OK as a wire service aggregator, but being free they do lean into some of the clickbait like UFO's and random missing persons. This morning is coed murders and Chandra Levy somehow linked to UFO's :rolleyes:

Reuters is OK too, but they seem to have gone back and forth on subs requirements.


The reporting that the WSJ does is probably the best of what has become a loathsome industry, and the distance between them and #2 is pretty substantial. They seem to do a much better than average job of keeping spin out of news they report. Sadly, that's where my go to source, the WaPo used to be, but that was like 30 years ago. I can't even read it now.

The WSJ editorial page is really something else, though. Their hatred of labor blinds them sometimes to what is really going on, and you can tell they dance around biting the hand that feeds them.

LifetimeCFI 05-01-2026 08:16 AM

I don't think "agree" means what you seem to think it means.

Zard 05-01-2026 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030033)
I'd rather do that than rely on all of free garbage outlets with baked-in agendas. Also too lazy to jump through my digital arse every morning to access free article views.

Newsnation is OK as a wire service aggregator, but being free they do lean into some of the clickbait like UFO's and random missing persons. This morning is coed murders and Chandra Levy somehow linked to UFO's :rolleyes:

Reuters is OK too, but they seem to have gone back and forth on subs requirements.

If you have a .edu address, it’s five or six bucks a month.

Setspeed 05-01-2026 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by 9thAmendment (Post 4030046)
If this was true the FAA would have pulled Spirit’s certificate already. Airlines aren’t allowed to slowly wind down at a future date for the obvious safety concerns involved in that. They just cease to exist all of the sudden.

Compass had a planned wind down over like 10 days with x amount furloughed every few days

mach75 05-01-2026 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by 9thAmendment (Post 4030046)
If this was true the FAA would have pulled Spirit’s certificate already. Airlines aren’t allowed to slowly wind down at a future date for the obvious safety concerns involved in that. They just cease to exist all of the sudden.

My guess is this article was planted by a specific party in negotiations to apply pressure…again. We’ve seen that multiple times throughout this process. Even last week Spirit’s own attorney testified in court that Spirit would run out of cash by today if the government didn’t bail them out.

I feel bad if true, and while nothing is official yet, I wouldnt dismiss reporting just because the FAA hasn't pulled their certificate. The FAA isn’t going to just yank Spirit’s certificate because they’re in financial trouble or "preparing for a possible shutdown". The FAA’s job is safety and compliance, not deciding whether an airline’s balance sheet looks bad. As long as Spirit is still meeting the required maintenance, crew, dispatch, training, and operational standards, they can keep flying. If they stop meeting those standards, then yes, the FAA can step in. But running out of money and losing an operating certificate are two different things. An airline can still plan for an orderly wind-down while operating safely in the meantime, so the fact that the FAA hasn’t pulled their certificate doesn’t prove the reporting is false. It just means Spirit is still operating within the rules right now.

Filler!

Mozam 05-01-2026 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030004)
This is the WSJ, not www.aviationclickbaitblog.ru

They don't do sensationalism or clickbait, they use reliable sources, and they don't go off half-cocked. The subscription fee is $500/year and it's worth it.


WSJ offers great 1 year deals. No where close to 500 backs a year. Yes it well worth having a subscription .

flier320 05-01-2026 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by 69fastback (Post 4030001)
seriously?

Yes?

Filler

Grumble 05-01-2026 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by LTJ9 (Post 4030038)
Nah, spirit has been good to me for almost 15 years. Going to see it to the end.


I’ll figure out how to get home if it happens

That loyalty is a one way street. Mgmt and the creditors don’t know who you are, or care. Just reality bro.


Originally Posted by 9thAmendment (Post 4030046)
If this was true the FAA would have pulled Spirit’s certificate already. Airlines aren’t allowed to slowly wind down at a future date for the obvious safety concerns involved in that. They just cease to exist all of the sudden.

My guess is this article was planted by a specific party in negotiations to apply pressure…again. We’ve seen that multiple times throughout this process. Even last week Spirit’s own attorney testified in court that Spirit would run out of cash by today if the government didn’t bail them out.

The last Pan Am flight didn’t know they were last until already in the air.

rickair7777 05-01-2026 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Zard (Post 4030056)
If you have a .edu address, it’s five or six bucks a month.

That's worth exploring, but I don't currently have one.

VacancyBid 05-01-2026 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030066)
That's worth exploring, but I don't currently have one.

best option is Apple News. Comes with a buncha paywall stuff for $38/month. Extra storage, monthly commune with steve jobs ghost


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