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A1 concepts Let's Pizza - YouTube Yes, I've been drinking but so what... |
now that has more relevance to NK than the ANA 76 hard landing....
what we really need is Ram and Scott to talk about who they are voting for this fall with respect to their religious back ground(s) |
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JustTheCole thinks allegiant is buying us and that we need an in house union and that the cba will be void if we get bought. Sounds like an indigo employee to me.
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
(Post 1219476)
JustTheCole thinks allegiant is buying us and that we need an in house union and that the cba will be void if we get bought. Sounds like an indigo employee to me.
Well, 1. do you think this is not a possibility? 2. Do you think our ALPA merger committee can handle it if it does happen? - oh yeah, we don't have one. 3. Will Admiral Scott be up to traveling to LAS to give ALGT scheduling the A$$ camera? - If we still have a contract. |
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 1219527)
Well,
1. do you think this is not a possibility? 2. Do you think our ALPA merger committee can handle it if it does happen? - oh yeah, we don't have one. 3. Will Admiral Scott be up to traveling to LAS to give ALGT scheduling the A$$ camera? - If we still have a contract. 2. Yes, even without one currently, yes. 3. Hell yes |
JustTheCole thinks allegiant is buying us and that we need an in house union and that the cba will be void if we get bought. Sounds like an indigo employee to me. That's what I would say. to Cole about his theory. |
Any care to guess how senior LAS will go under a combined seniority list?
? When was Spirit started? Allegiant? The most junior Capt at both airlines? What about work rule differences? |
Originally Posted by Orbit
(Post 1219616)
Any care to guess how senior LAS will go under a combined seniority list?
? When was Spirit started? Allegiant? The most junior Capt at both airlines? What about work rule differences? Successorship: "The provisions of this agreement shall be binding upon any successor or merged company or companies unless or until changed in accordance with the provisions of the railway labor act, as amended." So the company would get the union in full legal capacity and have to bargain with ALPA. Allegiant most junior CA: Nov 2007 Spirit most junior CA: May 2007 and getting younger Allegiant started in 1997 Spirit started in early 1980's as charter, most senior person on list is 1990. I don't know the work rules of Allegiant, but Spirit has some pretty good ones (my opinion). In any case, the pilots would hopefully negotiate up to the better provisions of either set, and have appropriate fences for a set time. It would be interesting, for sure. |
Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 1219530)
Just like RAM says , who cares what "Just the Friggn Cole" is, does or thinks, I'm friggn tired of this Benny hinn's Joel Austin's wanna be's with their revelations from their private book club, get Laid and get a life.
That's what I would say. to Cole about his theory. Cole was absolutely right about the IPO while the MEC Fuk'ed up on that one. Remember the MEC's "We will never IPO!" rant at the first roadshow in FLL? Cole (and his friendly contact) insisted time and again that we should not leave out an ESOP in the new CBA. One month after signing, Spirit files to go public (slap! slap!) Cole was right about the new Airbus orders. He missed the timing of the actual announcement by a couple of months (geez, that would be too much to get right don't you think?), but had info of the impending orders. The plans were to be one airplane a month ...well, the actual is 7 a year and growing to 10 a year. Pretty good if you ask me. Hell, he was even right about Franke allowing us to strike and even the number of days we would be on strike (months before it happened). And I heard it personally from him. "They will let us strike for 5 days, then hand us proposal #1." This is when I thought "no way in hell they're gonna let us walk." He was right. And he was damn right about the big party at BBB's mansion after this TA was signed. It did happen... He does have contacts, so don't disparage his info...especially if YOU have none. If anything, you should thank him for sharing what he knows. |
Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 1219530)
Just like RAM says , who cares what "Just the Friggn Cole" is, does or thinks, I'm friggn tired of this Benny hinn's Joel Austin's wanna be's with their revelations from their private book club, get Laid and get a life.
That's what I would say. to Cole about his theory. Cole was absolutely right about the IPO while the MEC Fuk'ed up on that one. Remember the MEC's "We will never IPO!" rant at the first roadshow in FLL? Cole (and his friendly contact) insisted time and again that we should not leave out an ESOP in the new CBA. One month after signing, Spirit files to go public (slap! slap!) Cole was right about the new Airbus orders. He missed the timing of the actual announcement by a couple of months (geez, that would be too much to get right don't you think?), but had info of the impending orders. The plans were to be one airplane a month ...well, the actual is 7 a year and growing to 10 a year. Pretty good if you ask me. Hell, he was even right about Franke allowing us to strike and even the number of days we would be on strike (months before it happened). And I heard it personally from him. "They will let us strike for 5 days, then hand us proposal #1." This is when I thought "no way in hell they're gonna let us walk." He was right. And he was damn right about the big party at BBB's mansion after this TA was signed. It did happen... He does have contacts, so don't disparage his info...especially if YOU have none. If anything, you should thank him for sharing what he knows. I say then, let's get ready to merge with Allegiant Airlines. MEC, please get a Merger comittee going NOW! |
Originally Posted by Dilbert
(Post 1219476)
JustTheCole thinks allegiant is buying us and that we need an in house union and that the cba will be void if we get bought. Sounds like an indigo employee to me.
Does anyone know what money INDIGO has in Allegiant? This may turn out to be simply the consolidation of two assets. |
Originally Posted by A320Flyer
(Post 1219686)
What I have to say...
And I heard it personally from him. |
Originally Posted by Dilbert
(Post 1219755)
Well random guy on the Internet, if you say so, it must be true.
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
(Post 1219755)
Well random guy on the Internet, if you say so, it must be true. We stand corrected and appropriately spanked...:eek:
Full denial 'til the last day, eh Dil? You probably don't put anything in the secondary "just in case" either, right? |
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 1219850)
Full denial 'til the last day, eh Dil?
You probably don't put anything in the secondary "just in case" either, right? |
Originally Posted by Dilbert
(Post 1219869)
You should be on msnbc. Your great at spin. :cool:
Fair and balanced, and some good eye candy to boot. |
Just talked to my Agnt source (:rolleyes:), and he's also hearing rumors about a buy out of NK. Also knows of 40-50 buses to be leased and more on order as well, will not show on the airbus AC order spread sheet, its a special order.
Also looking for a training Mgr for the bus program. ...so Cole was/is right, flyer, please accept my apologies, we are on our way to be a ULCC monster, I just hope we get to keep our jobs.:confused: He says that they will love and integration, since a lot of their FO, may just end up being sr to our FO's, cash is king and if they buy, they get to say... |
Sailor the reason they 40-50 Airbus's are not on the books is because they are used. ALGT does not lease Planes like Spirit they buy them, old and used. 40 - 50 planes are comming from over seas. I think old easy-jet planes or something like that.
Now my question is if they buy us will they keep the ALGT name or use Spirit. More people in Latin America know who Spirit is they will have a tough time saying Allegiant. **** I have a rough time even spelling the word Allegaint or is it Allgent no its Allegiant. I rather be espiritwing any day. JN |
Originally Posted by Jedinight
(Post 1219906)
Sailor the reason they 40-50 Airbus's are not on the books is because they are used. ALGT does not lease Planes like Spirit they buy them, old and used. 40 - 50 planes are comming from over seas. I think old easy-jet planes or something like that.
Now my question is if they buy us will they keep the ALGT name or use Spirit. More people in Latin America know who Spirit is they will have a tough time saying Allegiant. **** I have a rough time even spelling the word Allegaint or is it Allgent no its Allegiant. I rather be espiritwing any day. JN |
Keep our Seats, Base and AC type for the short term, was hoping for a Capt. upgrade next year lets see what happens.
JN |
Originally Posted by Jedinight
(Post 1220251)
Keep our Seats, Base and AC type for the short term, was hoping for a Capt. upgrade next year lets see what happens.
JN |
Originally Posted by LineHolder
(Post 1220307)
Wait. This is all still 'rumor' right?!
Actually NOT, this t=rd has got so big THAT already happen, I can't imagen what’s going on on the other board. Cole with keeps us up to date; it'll trickle down eventually. We have nothing else to do than to feed the monster!! I've heard that NK is dusting the old 80 FTD, I dont know! |
It's fun to speculate. We all do it. Human nature. But the truth is we cannot control what spirit does or does not do to itself anymore than the pilots at air tran could. As always, we are along for the ride.
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Maybe he can come up with some "good stuff" every 7 days and call it, "Tip of the Weak"?
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We've had this same rumor at Allegiant for over a year now.
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Is Xtra airways doing flying for you guys? I was in LGA yesterday and saw a Xtra 737 and it sounded like they were using the "spirit wings" callsign.
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Yes, xtra is doing some flying for us. I almost put them down in the TOTD post. I was in ACY Fri evening and the xtra pilot berated our ops lady because he had a long delay going to LGA... I could go on about how he mentioned he's been doing this since 1997... But I won't...
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Was the company given temporary scope relief to do this while they wait for a/c deliveries or what?
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Not sure. I do know we have multiple A/C down while they implement our seat mx program...
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Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
(Post 1220462)
Not sure. I do know we have multiple A/C down while they implement our seat mx program...
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You know JustTheCole, for someone who constantly beatches about our concessionary contract, it boggles me that you don't realize that Pref Bidding would be a concessionary move by this pilot group...
I'm glad your on your own double secret DBB. (Douche Bag Board) |
Originally Posted by Dilbert
(Post 1220774)
You know JustTheCole, for someone who constantly beatches about our concessionary contract, it boggles me that you don't realize that Pref Bidding would be a concessionary move by this pilot group...
I'm glad your on your own double secret DBB. (Douche Bag Board) |
Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
(Post 1220462)
Not sure. I do know we have multiple A/C down while they implement our seat mx program...
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Originally Posted by Orbit
(Post 1220843)
What's. "seat mx " program?
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Who the Eff is JustTheCole!!??
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Another Aisle-Donkey melt-down... When will the madness end? |
Guys, watch out for 602. Take your time and seriously consider an ASAP just to make sure you are covered. You could spend an hour in the book and still not get through everything.
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Can someone share some info about the ACY base? How many crews? Pairing structure? Line Structure? Dropping trip flexibility? OT availability? How long on reserve and reserve obligations (ie 2 hr call out.) Anything else that would seem pertinent for someone living in North Jersey looking to work for Spirit.
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