Anyone know of anybody hired with less than 4000TT? I Have just under that an I'm wondering if it's worth visiting them at WIA.
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Originally Posted by gonyon
(Post 1824290)
I don't think this little DL LOA was any sort of "probe" or indication to the company as to the resolve and the strength of the pilot group. given the 79% voter participation rate I almost think many pilots don't even care.
You're right, the fact that 70% voted in favor of getting bent over the hood of Ben's car probably means nothing. At least we improved 4% from 2010. If this trend continues, we will be able to say no somewhere around 2053. |
Originally Posted by TurbineDriver
(Post 1824304)
Anyone know of anybody hired with less than 4000TT? I Have just under that an I'm wondering if it's worth visiting them at WIA.
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 1824305)
You're right, the fact that 70% voted in favor of getting bent over the hood of Ben's car probably means nothing. At least we improved 4% from 2010. If this trend continues, we will be able to say no somewhere around 2053.
I was thinking this exact same thing. |
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 1824305)
You're right, the fact that 70% voted in favor of getting bent over the hood of Ben's car probably means nothing. At least we improved 4% from 2010. If this trend continues, we will be able to say no somewhere around 2053.
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Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
(Post 1824228)
I'm fearful if the company offers a 34% raise to us and no other contract improvements for two years...we will say yes. Too many near sighted pilots.. In two years we will merge with Frontier with no merger/scope protection and most junior guys here will be stapled..
Use your head guys. The LOA is a prime example, NK gets something, the pilot group did not do an "even" trade. Don't keep repeating the process. |
Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
(Post 1824228)
I'm fearful if the company offers a 34% raise to us and no other contract improvements for two years...we will say yes. Too many near sighted pilots.. In two years we will merge with Frontier with no merger/scope protection and most junior guys here will be stapled..
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
(Post 1824358)
They aren't going to offer a raise and keep everything else status quo. The cheapest management in the business won't 'give' us anything. Any raise will have to be hard fought or paid for in work rule give-aways. Which will this pilot group choose?
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I voted No. I lost. I'll move on. But it disturbs me that we just traded a work rule (13 days min guarantee down to 11) for one hour of pay (13 day off line, company had to drop a 2 day trip minimum to bring you back to 13 off and pay you for it 9 hours now given up for 10 hours. A difference of 1 hour. You guys and girls are certainly cheap dates.
I hope contact negotiations last until my retirement date so I don't have to read what other perks you trade away for pennies and suffer the consequences. I need a beer... |
Originally Posted by Merlyn
(Post 1824396)
I voted No. I lost. I'll move on. But it disturbs me that we just traded a work rule (13 days min guarantee down to 11) for one hour of pay (13 day off line, company had to drop a 2 day trip minimum to bring you back to 13 off and pay you for it 9 hours now given up for 10 hours. A difference of 1 hour. You guys and girls are certainly cheap dates.
I hope contact negotiations last until my retirement date so I don't have to read what other perks you trade away for pennies and suffer the consequences. I need a beer... |
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