I am getting pretty tired of hearing this excuse. The credit card companies did this last year, how is it possible it is still affecting us? At some point we must have caught up to the credit card company and their reimbursments. For instance, lets say a family of four bought airfare in December for travel next week. We dont get any of their money until next week on their travel date, but aren't we getting all the money from the people that flew today? And isn't it the same amount (roughly) than a week from now, or a month from now? Im sure this had a huge effect on our bottom line for the first few months, but it has been way too long for it to still be an issue.

Class dates for recalls are April 19th and 23rd. Letters being prepared today for Fed Ex.

I owe you a beer taylor.

Im taking you up on that!

Pilot Base Bid is out:
3 CA for DTW
3 CA for FLL
6 FO for FLL
May 1, 2009

As predicted. I figured a few would go to ACY... O well...

I heard that four airplanes are on the way back to spirit, is it true or just another rumor?

Rumor. Just got my recall notice VIA Fedex Express Saver.

Congrats!!man, keep us updated on what's new when you get to Miramar..

Yeah keep us in the loop on the happenings. Where is Breckster during all this he normally has some good info!?!? ;)

Are you teasing us? :eek:

Funny that it is his/hers first post.

ohh NOOO, I am not teasing you, I got this info from a good source, but it is not official........ I just hope is true.!!!:cool:

You and everyone else does also, but as everyone else says "I will believe it when I put the thrust levers in the detent."

I am sure they will come back but "when" is the question.

BTW Angel welcome to APC!

Yeah. That 4 airplane rumor has been floating around. They are supposedly the USA3000 A320's that are being returned to lessors.

Congrats all coming back...

A320

Yeah with 4 more aircraft coming it made sense that we need 5 less mechanics in DTW...

Talked to PO. He said 4 airplane rumor was false.

Hey you coming back this time around?

4 airplane rumor is false......its actually 10! as soon as VA tanks, we get 10 of their Airbus, and spirit upper management will rip the TV's out of the seat back to 'pimp' their rides! J/K but I did hear the USA 3000 rumor

Affirmative

Thank you. I will...

Dangit taylor I only needed you and about 80 other people to turn down the recall and I would have gotton a letter too!!!

I thought there was a chance this time. :rolleyes:

Good for you bud, welcome back!:)

Believe me,... If I could, I would give you my spot...

Hey guys, anybody knows for real how many pilots will still remain in furlough after this last recall???? :(

No idea but I think it is the last recall until we get new airframes :( Who knows how long this will be...

I agree, we need airplanes to get another recall.

Talked with a friend of mine that knows the head mechanic at USA3000...he said their airplanes are being leased overseas for 5 months, they will be coming back there after the lease.

But, does anyone know of NK trying to get 1 or 2 of the AC we returned last yr. I thought we were working to get some of those leases back.

Those 12 recalls will probably be the last ones for this year. May 1st is already the high season and they probably won't need additional crews just to cover for June-Sept.

I don't want to be pessimistic but without new A/C for this year, what will happen in November? Will there be a seasonal furlough. Usually this is when the schedule shrinks a little for NK. I hope not but unfortunately for the guys who got recalled this time, there might be some unemployment time again for the end of the year. I hope not though....

The rumor about getting new planes is just a rumor, like we were supposed to get 10 A320 for this spring and finally nothing happened. What I would really like to know is when are we supposed to get those 25-30 new A320s ordered 2 years ago. Nobody seems to know the answer. Those will be the a/c that will trigger a massive recall.

In new hire, they said we'd get planes in 2008. Then it was 2009. Now it's 2011, but we're trying for 2010...any one catch the trend???

I'll be taking the Legacy sized furlough, but with an ULCC to come back to...that is of course if BBB is not lying and we're actually making money.

Actually the schedule gets reduced after Labor Day in Sept and increases again mid November for the holiday travel season. So, will there be a furlough again this fall....I doubt it. The last round of recalls was just to cover the six lines that will be created by returning the 4 days off to the schedule. We have not increased our staffing level at all for the summer schedule, so there should not be a need to reduce in the fall. Remember, it does not pay for the company to furlough for just a few months, and Spirit's slow season is too short to warrant a furlough for six months or longer. Also, while attrition has been very light, I do know of 3 that have gone back to AA recently and 4 that have class dates overseas this year. Im not sure when AA will recall again but I know that we have quite a few more that will go back when they get the call.

Unless something unforeseen happens I would think we will avoid a furlough here this year. After all, our schedule gets reduced every fall and we do not furlough simply for that reason.

As far as more airplanes, keep an eye on one of the business channels. When you start to hear that the banking industry has hit a bottom and loans are being written again, we will see more airplanes....a lot more. Until then, unless someone just gives them to us, we are stuck with what we have.

How long?
 

For those of you who have been around Spirit a long time. How many years now has managment said to expect large growth?

It seems Spirit's been stuck on about 30 aircraft for years now. I heard the 'ten new aircraft this year' way too many times, only to see NO new aircraft. And by new, I mean additional.

Until this team gets serious about being anything beyond a Mickey Mouse operation, I don't see them doing much growth.

Just my 2 cents.

Tiger, I think you may be right. I'm actually thinking that there are NOT going to be any recalls for the rest of the year, and I'll even go a little further to say that I don't even think job security is not as secure as some people may think at NK. I'll be watching over my shoulders if I was a Senior, Middle of the pack or Junior pilot at NK, "just my underground info" (wink, wink), make sure you have a parachute. Good luck.;)

Sailor, your source and mine could be one in the same. I've been hearing the same. Time to look elsewhere before everyone is on the street :eek:

Well, that didn't take long...I've got some NK friends that have been there for awhile, telling me that they are tightening the belt at home foreseeing DOOM and GLOOM sooner than everyone thinks....sucks.:mad:

I am hearing now that Tiger Airways is getting rid off 4 A319s. I believe also training standards had recently a nice stay in Colombia hmmmmm

Just received a call from LS today saying that my recall letter was in the mail. I am about 17ish on the recall list. Anyone else get a call today?