Spirit of NKS, Part II
05-23-2016 | 08:48 AM
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This is a slippery slope. You have no idea why someone is picking up time. Could be greed and selfishness or maybe they have others to take care of. Like a loved one needing special medical treatment and the bills are piling up. To seek out these people and then ask them why they are doing it is none of your business. Are you going to be the one who determines what is and isn't an acceptable reason for picking up time?
It'd be a great thing if people worried about themselves and not what others are doing.
05-23-2016 | 09:05 AM
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Why the animosity? Serious question. I was hoping we would all be on the same page. Not to black list anyone but to know who needed encouragement. Maybe they didn't know about the cause. Maybe they don't realize how short sighted their actions are.
I see now that the open time is slowly stabilizing to normal levels which leads me to believe this group is just as impotent as I feared.
You guys couldn't even do it for one month. Why? Because "no one will know if I just pick up one turn". That's why we need the list.
Trying to send a signal and failing is worse than never trying at all. I predict less than 20 ppl in Houston. I don't even know why I bother.
I see now that the open time is slowly stabilizing to normal levels which leads me to believe this group is just as impotent as I feared.
You guys couldn't even do it for one month. Why? Because "no one will know if I just pick up one turn". That's why we need the list.
Trying to send a signal and failing is worse than never trying at all. I predict less than 20 ppl in Houston. I don't even know why I bother.
05-23-2016 | 09:34 AM
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This is a slippery slope. You have no idea why someone is picking up time. Could be greed and selfishness or maybe they have others to take care of. Like a loved one needing special medical treatment and the bills are piling up. To seek out these people and then ask them why they are doing it is none of your business. Are you going to be the one who determines what is and isn't an acceptable reason for picking up time?
05-23-2016 | 10:10 AM
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Guilty as charged. I've been working on reducing my foolishness level for many years. Change is slow. However, you haven't answered my concerns. Why can't we have a simple show of force for just one month. Just one? Not all summer, not all year. Just June. As long as you can get 'just enough' you'll keep slaving away instead of seeing the big picture and sacrificing for ONE MONTH. Hence, the list. Will you be on it?
05-23-2016 | 10:14 AM
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This is a slippery slope. You have no idea why someone is picking up time. Could be greed and selfishness or maybe they have others to take care of. Like a loved one needing special medical treatment and the bills are piling up. To seek out these people and then ask them why they are doing it is none of your business. Are you going to be the one who determines what is and isn't an acceptable reason for picking up time?
05-23-2016 | 10:54 AM
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http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/05/22/southwest-airlines-pilots-are-fed-up-and-they-aren.aspx?source=yahoo-2&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_sourc e=
And all we want is industry average...
And all we want is industry average...
05-23-2016 | 10:58 AM
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Exactly! It's not an easy task paying for multiple medical bills long after a family member have passed. This is speaking from personal experience. I'm not saying i'm picking up open time for this reason. I'm just point out that, there's situation like mine that others are going through.
05-23-2016 | 11:16 AM
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I don't think the OP is referring to the guys with medical bills and what not. It's the "I have to credit 100+ hours to pay for my 3 boats or BMW" guys that are not helping our cause. Oh well, we have zero leverage, management that disrespects us over and over again and pilots lining up to volunteer! Sackless group! CBA 2025
You want to have what AA used to have? Credit capped at 85 hours to prevent open time abuse?
05-23-2016 | 11:19 AM
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He probably was but again how do you police that? Simply, you can't. It sucks we have guys that put themselves in a position where they need to credit 100+ a month to live and care about nothing else.
You want to have what AA used to have? Credit capped at 85 hours to prevent open time abuse?
You want to have what AA used to have? Credit capped at 85 hours to prevent open time abuse?
05-23-2016 | 11:22 AM
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Spirit of NKS, Part II
I don't think the OP is referring to the guys with medical bills and what not. It's the "I have to credit 100+ hours to pay for my 3 boats or BMW" guys that are not helping our cause. Oh well, we have zero leverage, management that disrespects us over and over again and pilots lining up to volunteer! Sackless group! CBA 2025
This is right on.
Guys are talking about the vast minority with the medical bills etc and they know it. They're just being argumentative
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