Spirit of NKS, Part II
11-11-2015 | 10:36 AM
#821
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It might turn out ok Guys. Big Momma Continental had 777 F/Os making $30/hr with no health insurance for a year. Sure they went on Food stamps but looooooooooooook at em now 
11-11-2015 | 10:54 AM
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Periods of horrible pay isn't unique to Spirit Airlines. Those airlines improved, we will too.
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11-11-2015 | 01:38 PM
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From: A320 starboard... Arrrr
11-11-2015 | 02:31 PM
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Guys! You can't honestly be comparing our 2010 contract rates (when Continental and USAir among others had similar rates) to the Republic contract that came out last week in the midst of a pilot shortage. If our TA comes out with a pathetic first year rate, okay it's game on, but this is not apples to apples...
It might turn out ok Guys. Big Momma Continental had 777 F/Os making $30/hr with no health insurance for a year. Sure they went on Food stamps but looooooooooooook at em now
11-11-2015 | 03:13 PM
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Continental actually had no health insurance for 6 months not a year. We still do 90days which is ridiculous.
And yes first year is actually lower than $38.50 because training pay is a complete slap in face to any professional. Which is why now that upgrade time has become an eternatity we are no longer attracting professionals. You simply just don't make much money in the right seat. The only hope was to upgrade fast and make legacy narrow body FO pay without the retirement. Moving forward we are going to attract some real gems and/or some good guys that will just rotate in and then out to a legacy. Very similar to early 2001 and you can see the peaches we got around that time frame. Obviously there are some exceptions.
And yes first year is actually lower than $38.50 because training pay is a complete slap in face to any professional. Which is why now that upgrade time has become an eternatity we are no longer attracting professionals. You simply just don't make much money in the right seat. The only hope was to upgrade fast and make legacy narrow body FO pay without the retirement. Moving forward we are going to attract some real gems and/or some good guys that will just rotate in and then out to a legacy. Very similar to early 2001 and you can see the peaches we got around that time frame. Obviously there are some exceptions.
11-11-2015 | 03:34 PM
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So you're sayin' I got a chance to become something here at spirit if I just stay on and let those guys who can get hired on to the legacies leave? I'm thinking the future is rosy for guys like me.
11-11-2015 | 03:50 PM
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Looks like the JetBlue MEC is working to help feed hungry families on Thanksgiving. Meanwhile, the Spirit MEC can't get a contract that allows our FO's to feed their families. Something is wrong with this picture.
11-11-2015 | 05:40 PM
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Spirit: How to Invest with Warren Buffet
Spirit Airlines: "That was a tough one. Remember that last time when Ben Baldanza [CEO] was on, the stock was down 50 straight points. And yet here I am still telling you to be in Delta. And if not Delta, then SouthWest Air. They have better growth prospects."
Better growth prospects? Spirit is doubling in size over the next several years while gaining the attention of the big three. Seems like decent prospects to me? I'll never understand investing...
Spirit Airlines: "That was a tough one. Remember that last time when Ben Baldanza [CEO] was on, the stock was down 50 straight points. And yet here I am still telling you to be in Delta. And if not Delta, then SouthWest Air. They have better growth prospects."
Better growth prospects? Spirit is doubling in size over the next several years while gaining the attention of the big three. Seems like decent prospects to me? I'll never understand investing...
11-11-2015 | 05:50 PM
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Spirit: How to Invest with Warren Buffet
Spirit Airlines: "That was a tough one. Remember that last time when Ben Baldanza [CEO] was on, the stock was down 50 straight points. And yet here I am still telling you to be in Delta. And if not Delta, then SouthWest Air. They have better growth prospects."
Better growth prospects? Spirit is doubling in size over the next several years while gaining the attention of the big three. Seems like decent prospects to me? I'll never understand investing...
Spirit Airlines: "That was a tough one. Remember that last time when Ben Baldanza [CEO] was on, the stock was down 50 straight points. And yet here I am still telling you to be in Delta. And if not Delta, then SouthWest Air. They have better growth prospects."
Better growth prospects? Spirit is doubling in size over the next several years while gaining the attention of the big three. Seems like decent prospects to me? I'll never understand investing...
11-11-2015 | 06:01 PM
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And, there is a very valid argument that Spirit, or the ULCC market in the USA, could more than double again from Spirit's 145 aircraft by 2021 fleet plan.... 300 a/c in the U.S. would put the ULCC market on par with our European brethren....
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