Spirit of NKS, Part IV
03-19-2017, 07:39 AM
#541
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38 canceled flights from yesterday (31) and into today (7).
Figure over 6,000 passengers stranded on spring break.
Totally controllable, staffing issues. Too bad passengers are getting the bad end of the deal regarding poor staffing.
You see this Bob, Bendo, Jyri? Of course you do...this is what you get.
Figure over 6,000 passengers stranded on spring break.
Totally controllable, staffing issues. Too bad passengers are getting the bad end of the deal regarding poor staffing.
You see this Bob, Bendo, Jyri? Of course you do...this is what you get.
03-19-2017, 07:47 AM
#542
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Originally Posted by OneEyedMonster
38 canceled flights from yesterday (31) and into today (7).
Figure over 6,000 passengers stranded on spring break.
Totally controllable, staffing issues. Too bad passengers are getting the bad end of the deal regarding poor staffing.
You see this Bob, Bendo, Jyri? Of course you do...this is what you get.
Figure over 6,000 passengers stranded on spring break.
Totally controllable, staffing issues. Too bad passengers are getting the bad end of the deal regarding poor staffing.
You see this Bob, Bendo, Jyri? Of course you do...this is what you get.
Was in ORD the other day and they cancelled an MSP flight because of weather. Yeah it was VFR in ORD and MSP, the crew called in fatigue and they didn't have anyone come to save the day.
03-19-2017, 08:04 AM
#543
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 240
Originally Posted by leadsled
Company will just blame the weather.
Was in ORD the other day and they cancelled an MSP flight because of weather. Yeah it was VFR in ORD and MSP, the crew called in fatigue and they didn't have anyone come to save the day.
Was in ORD the other day and they cancelled an MSP flight because of weather. Yeah it was VFR in ORD and MSP, the crew called in fatigue and they didn't have anyone come to save the day.
Bobby F is riding the wave of increased customer satisfaction on Spirit (oxymoron?), will he be willing to watch that crash this summer and into the holiday season because of a lack of a new contract?
Facts are facts...
Losing close to 50% pilots so far this year (new hires vs current pilots leaving)
New routes being added
Seasonal summer flying coming back
9 more planes coming this year
Summer increase in block hours.
Company is already failing the Spring Break stress test, doesnt take a genius to figure how summer will go.
03-19-2017, 08:40 AM
#545
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Posts: 240
Originally Posted by The real Mike O
I'm not sure 50% is a fact.
22 have left, 1 retired.
What are you trying to say?
22 have left, 1 retired.
What are you trying to say?
As of March 1st we have lost 23 pilots and 1 retired. Total 24 pilots gone in the first 2 months of the year. Source: Latest MEC communication on the attrition report.
Delta: 8
UPS: 5
FedEx: 3
Southwest: 5
AA: 1
United: 1
Retired: 1
We are still running classes of aprox 24 a month.
So even if every pilot passed training in January and February, thats 48 new FOs hitting the line. We lost 25 pilots off the list.
So even IF 48 passed training (which they didn't) attrition is 24 left/48 new=50% attrition
03-19-2017, 09:06 AM
#546
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The last two Base Vacancy Bulletin showed 32 NH for Feb. and 40 NH for Mar.
What were the actual NH numbers for Feb/Mar?
Unless every single pilot gets called on their day off to work OT, then there is not a shortage. Flights are getting cancelled without calls being made.
It is interesting that CUG is still 12 a month.
What were the actual NH numbers for Feb/Mar?
Unless every single pilot gets called on their day off to work OT, then there is not a shortage. Flights are getting cancelled without calls being made.
It is interesting that CUG is still 12 a month.
03-19-2017, 09:42 AM
#547
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Originally Posted by skytrekker
The last two Base Vacancy Bulletin showed 32 NH for Feb. and 40 NH for Mar.
What were the actual NH numbers for Feb/Mar?
Unless every single pilot gets called on their day off to work OT, then there is not a shortage. Flights are getting cancelled without calls being made.
It is interesting that CUG is still 12 a month.
What were the actual NH numbers for Feb/Mar?
Unless every single pilot gets called on their day off to work OT, then there is not a shortage. Flights are getting cancelled without calls being made.
It is interesting that CUG is still 12 a month.
So the 2 vacancy bids for Jan and Feb classes show
32 new hires for January and 32 for February.
So that's 64 bodies in the door for 24 left. I didn't realize the upped the class numbers that much. My mistake on that one
So looks like 38% on the attrition If everyone passed training.
Maybe assume 60 made it through...that would be 40%
03-19-2017, 09:49 AM
#548
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Originally Posted by OneEyedMonster
I went back and checked vacancy bid 17-3 and 17-4
So the 2 vacancy bids for Jan and Feb classes show
32 new hires for January and 32 for February.
So that's 64 bodies in the door for 24 left. I didn't realize the upped the class numbers that much. My mistake on that one
So looks like 38% on the attrition If everyone passed training.
Maybe assume 60 made it through...that would be 40%
So the 2 vacancy bids for Jan and Feb classes show
32 new hires for January and 32 for February.
So that's 64 bodies in the door for 24 left. I didn't realize the upped the class numbers that much. My mistake on that one
So looks like 38% on the attrition If everyone passed training.
Maybe assume 60 made it through...that would be 40%
03-19-2017, 09:55 AM
#549
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Position: Bus FO
Posts: 316
Originally Posted by OneEyedMonster
38 canceled flights from yesterday (31) and into today (7).
Figure over 6,000 passengers stranded on spring break.
Totally controllable, staffing issues. Too bad passengers are getting the bad end of the deal regarding poor staffing.
You see this Bob, Bendo, Jyri? Of course you do...this is what you get.
Figure over 6,000 passengers stranded on spring break.
Totally controllable, staffing issues. Too bad passengers are getting the bad end of the deal regarding poor staffing.
You see this Bob, Bendo, Jyri? Of course you do...this is what you get.
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