Spirit of NKS, Part IV
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Once 9 is TA'd all that's left are the big ones. So we killed two years to start talking Scope, pay, retirement, scheduling, hours of service, and sick leave. Should be able to knock those out in another month no problem. HA!
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So I hear JetBlue has 19 of 31 sections TAd, we have 20 out of 31. We have been negotiating for a lot longer and we already had a CBA to work off of. Even JBs very anti-union mgmt seems to be more willing to get a contract than our management.
I also heard they have 18 days of negotiating in Feb.
I also heard they have 18 days of negotiating in Feb.
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I predict the section on training pilots will take forever. Am I the only person grumpy about the super amazing schedules our instructors get made for them before our lines are made?
Any chance we become a big boy airline and let instructors bid a line like the rest of us?
Any chance we become a big boy airline and let instructors bid a line like the rest of us?
#47
I predict the section on training pilots will take forever. Am I the only person grumpy about the super amazing schedules our instructors get made for them before our lines are made?
Any chance we become a big boy airline and let instructors bid a line like the rest of us?
Any chance we become a big boy airline and let instructors bid a line like the rest of us?
That being said, we can't take a year to hash out the Instructor section.
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So I hear JetBlue has 19 of 31 sections TAd, we have 20 out of 31. We have been negotiating for a lot longer and we already had a CBA to work off of. Even JBs very anti-union mgmt seems to be more willing to get a contract than our management.
I also heard they have 18 days of negotiating in Feb.
I also heard they have 18 days of negotiating in Feb.
#49
I predict the section on training pilots will take forever. Am I the only person grumpy about the super amazing schedules our instructors get made for them before our lines are made?
Any chance we become a big boy airline and let instructors bid a line like the rest of us?
Any chance we become a big boy airline and let instructors bid a line like the rest of us?
Have you sat down with a line check airman and asked them how awesome it is to have very few of their line requests honored, or how awesome it is to be locked out of IOT and DOT, and if it's so super amazing, why on average 2-3 LCA positions go unfilled each month because it's such a great deal?
More than dividing yourself from a group of our fellow pilots, you should be more concerned with the fact that JS wakes up in the morning and tries to find new ways to wipe himself with Section 9 of your CBA. Furthermore, try to think what JS is likely looking to do to Section 9 in negotiations. Do you want 30 guys returned to the line each month that used to do NH, CUG, and recurrent training so that you can go do your next line check or PC with a non-line pilot instructor/check airman? Perhaps your chief pilot, because that may just happen. Ask any NH how many non-list instructors they had during initial training, it's already happening. JS is a training guy, that's what he knows, do you think it's coincidence Section 9 is taking as long as it is? You've got to look at the bigger picture here.
And no, I'm not one of those guys, just one who's wise enough to get myself educated on the issue, but I trust you threw your name in the super amazing check airman hat when the company asked for more last fall.
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I predict the section on training pilots will take forever. Am I the only person grumpy about the super amazing schedules our instructors get made for them before our lines are made?
Any chance we become a big boy airline and let instructors bid a line like the rest of us?
Any chance we become a big boy airline and let instructors bid a line like the rest of us?
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