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Old 02-09-2017 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Timeismoney
I'll tell why guys are going to SWA, I have a friend over there and he showed me his schedule, three 3 day trips with a credit of 80 trips. Second year f/o makes in the 120's per hour and with the dc they make more than a 5 year capt here. New hires at SWA can choose their base right out of training except for atl and mdw I think. There has been a big uptick in resignations since November and that comes from the most reliable source.
I'm giving this place until the end of 2017 and that's it. As much as I don't want to fly a 73 for the rest of my life I also don't want to be a WalMart greeter at the age of 66. Money talks.
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Old 02-09-2017 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
I'm giving this place until the end of 2017 and that's it. As much as I don't want to fly a 73 for the rest of my life I also don't want to be a WalMart greeter at the age of 66. Money talks.
If we are not close by the end of summer I am out. I am a 6 year captain.
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Old 02-09-2017 | 09:04 AM
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I don't understand how 29/7 keeps efficient trips from being built. I believe our wonderful trip averaging is what gives us low yield trips which is what I think your issue is. If we had a good trip rig it wouldn't be a problem. I really don't like hearing "get rid of 29/7" or "get rid of transition." Makes it sound like those are throwaway items when they actually have amazing value. "Get rid of" those things and see how (especially) junior folks quality of life nosedives.
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Old 02-09-2017 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
I'm giving this place until the end of 2017 and that's it.
Both of you are going to be disappointed. Ten months from now you are going to realize you should have started applying now.
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Old 02-09-2017 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by todhog2
Both of you are going to be disappointed. Ten months from now you are going to realize you should have started applying now.
You're probably right.
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Old 02-09-2017 | 09:40 AM
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Both of you are going to be disappointed. Ten months from now you are going to realize you should have started applying now.
This. ^^ If anyone thinks we're getting a contract by the end of this year, they're delusional. It's taken over 2 years to get through the NON-ECONOMIC sections of the contract, and they're STILL not done.
How long will it take when we actually start getting down to brass tacks? We can all keep dreaming though.
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Old 02-09-2017 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
This. ^^ If anyone thinks we're getting a contract by the end of this year, they're delusional. It's taken over 2 years to get through the NON-ECONOMIC sections of the contract, and they're STILL not done.
How long will it take when we actually start getting down to brass tacks? We can all keep dreaming though.
I loved how our low tier management team put the blame on the union during the earnings conference call. Basically saying that the union requested mediation and that slows the process down.
These idiots and JA wasted a year of bargaining only to get nowhere. Then after not making any headway, we had no choice and requested mediation just so we could start the clock on these morons.
Keep up the good work and three engine taxis boys.
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Old 02-09-2017 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by todhog2
Both of you are going to be disappointed. Ten months from now you are going to realize you should have started applying now.
Everyone has a different place to draw a line in the sand and the end of the summer is mine. It's tough with a family to make that kind of move but I should have my house in order by then to take the first year pay cut. I understand the sooner than later argument but this is the best I can do. I will however start applying next month and hopefully have something to consider by the end of summer or fall.
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Old 02-09-2017 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
This. ^^ If anyone thinks we're getting a contract by the end of this year, they're delusional. It's taken over 2 years to get through the NON-ECONOMIC sections of the contract, and they're STILL not done.
How long will it take when we actually start getting down to brass tacks? We can all keep dreaming though.
Not saying you're wrong but we weren't in mediation until kind of recently
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Old 02-09-2017 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
This. ^^ If anyone thinks we're getting a contract by the end of this year, they're delusional. It's taken over 2 years to get through the NON-ECONOMIC sections of the contract, and they're STILL not done.
How long will it take when we actually start getting down to brass tacks? We can all keep dreaming though.

The Judge is correct. Anyone who thinks we are getting a TA without either going on strike or being 30 seconds away from being on strike is kidding themselves. Ask yourself if we will be at that point by the end of 2017. I doubt it. Its going to be a long low paying road to a new contract. Every day the company waits the economy could crash or something else could happen where they can claim they can't afford to pay us. Combine that with the possibility of having this drag out endlessly until we are almost there then having the merger happen and having to start all over again and you can see its going to be awhile.
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