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Old 02-08-2017 | 04:36 AM
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o 12-year A330 Captain rates will be $290 on the date of signing, increase to $300 in 2017, and reach $337 in the last year of the PWA;

o 12-year B767 Captain rates will be $240 on the date of signing, increase to $250 in 2017, and reach $281 in the last year of the PWA;

o 12-year A321 Captain rates will be $235 on the date of signing, increase to $245 in 2017, and reach $275 in the last year of the PWA;

o 12-year B717 Captain rates will be $210 on the date of signing, increase to $220 in 2017, and reach $247 in the last year of the PWA.




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I would imagine we will be fairly close to these 321 numbers. Can only help our cause!
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Old 02-08-2017 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Those rates are about $20/hr lower than delta and united. It's about what united was making before the snap up. What's the retirement?
True it's lower but it still should help our ask. I'd like to see retirement as well.
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Old 02-08-2017 | 04:52 AM
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That's all well and good that all of these will help our cause, but for christs sake, Their contract was AMEDNABLE A YEAR AFTER ours, they started negotiating AFTER US and we are JUST NOW about to get to money items. This is getting to be absolutely rediculous.

At this rate, I'm sure Jet Blue and F9 will have a contract before us and UAL will probably start negotiating on their next contract,

Enough is enough already.
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Old 02-08-2017 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ropestart
I would imagine we will be fairly close to these 321 numbers. Can only help our cause!
Way to swing for the fences. Sarcasm

I've heard a few times (luckily not a lot), "I don't expect legacy pay."

Why the heck not?! Give me one good reason! One! Silence
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Old 02-08-2017 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
4-some.........................


I've always had fivesomes because I use my thumbs
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Old 02-08-2017 | 05:20 AM
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Alaska and Virgin will have a new JCBA by May, JetBlue will follow shortly there after......looks like it's a race for last place between us and Frontier.
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Old 02-08-2017 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Alaska and Virgin will have a new JCBA by May, JetBlue will follow shortly there after......looks like it's a race for last place between us and Frontier.


They probably get some accolades in the mgmt circles for this type of performance
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Old 02-08-2017 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NFjt
They probably get some accolades in the mgmt circles for this type of performance
"Bob, have a beer, on me! The way you f*cked over the lowest paid Airbus pilots in the world for over 3 years was truly remarkable. Now tell us how you did it. Oscar man, get over here! Bob is getting ready to let us in on the Spirit magic."---DUI Doug
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Old 02-08-2017 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BadHombre
It seems the investors cant understand the concept that RASM has dropped because of pricing pressures in markets that didn't exist in 2014 and prior.

Bob remarked that he doesn't look at anything from 2014 and before because Spirit was allowed to run a free for all in any market without price competition. Now we are seeing the competition so RASM is dropping YOY, but our CASM continues to drop as well, preserving those 20% margins.
That timing also coincides with the plunge in oil prices. Fuel costs less, don't need to charge the passengers as much, also driving RASM downward.....
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Old 02-08-2017 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Way to swing for the fences. Sarcasm

I've heard a few times (luckily not a lot), "I don't expect legacy pay."

Why the heck not?! Give me one good reason! One! Silence
Swinging for the cheap seats brotha.
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