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Oxygen refill a maintenance write up?
11-20-2019 | 01:04 PM
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Oxygen refill a maintenance write up?
30 years of flying and today I was informed that any time I ask for the oxygen to be topped off it requires a maintenance write up and a discrepancy in the logbook. Thus like any maintenance write up which would ground the aircraft.
Anyone else handle it this way?
Anyone else handle it this way?
11-20-2019 | 02:45 PM
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What kind of plane are we talking? I suspect you have a minimum pressure to dispatch. Anything below that would need a mx write up. If you are above that minimum but still want it topped off, it still requires a mx log entry but it would be wise to wait until mx is at the plane with an O2 bottle before putting something in the book.
11-20-2019 | 03:33 PM
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In the 121 world, today? Yes. Anything you ask Mx to do requires a writeup. Technically.
They've gotten pretty serious about it. Too many operators kept glossing over intermittent faults, and you'd have the same thing recurring again and again without any formal documentation that the FAA could follow.
It actually protects pilots. And Mx jobs... at my last airline it was actually Mx management that was driving it, because line Mx spent so much time addressing minor undocumented issues that they couldn't keep up... and couldn't justify more staffing to HQ because there was no paper trail.
They've gotten pretty serious about it. Too many operators kept glossing over intermittent faults, and you'd have the same thing recurring again and again without any formal documentation that the FAA could follow.
It actually protects pilots. And Mx jobs... at my last airline it was actually Mx management that was driving it, because line Mx spent so much time addressing minor undocumented issues that they couldn't keep up... and couldn't justify more staffing to HQ because there was no paper trail.
11-20-2019 | 03:54 PM
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Anytime servicing of the airplane takes place, it requires documentation.
11-20-2019 | 04:38 PM
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This is 135. I've been working for a couple of air ambulance outfits and in 2 of them I was responsible for filling the O2. I changed to a new company this year and they have maintenance do it. But I was never told to write it up. It's actually one of the mechanics daily jobs to refill the tanks on both the med bed and the crew so it never has a need for me to ask or write it up. I beat them to doing my preflight one day and found it down so I asked for a top off and apparently because I asked instead of them just doing it as the normal procedure it's now a write up.
11-20-2019 | 05:39 PM
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This is 135. I've been working for a couple of air ambulance outfits and in 2 of them I was responsible for filling the O2. I changed to a new company this year and they have maintenance do it. But I was never told to write it up. It's actually one of the mechanics daily jobs to refill the tanks on both the med bed and the crew so it never has a need for me to ask or write it up. I beat them to doing my preflight one day and found it down so I asked for a top off and apparently because I asked instead of them just doing it as the normal procedure it's now a write up.
11-21-2019 | 01:00 PM
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Oxygen pressure insufficient for Observer/jumpseater........they MEL jumpseat and you go on your way. Oxygen pressure insufficient for required crew.....you don’t go anywhere til it’s filled. Both are maintenance write ups.
11-21-2019 | 06:07 PM
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This is 135. I've been working for a couple of air ambulance outfits and in 2 of them I was responsible for filling the O2. I changed to a new company this year and they have maintenance do it. But I was never told to write it up. It's actually one of the mechanics daily jobs to refill the tanks on both the med bed and the crew so it never has a need for me to ask or write it up. I beat them to doing my preflight one day and found it down so I asked for a top off and apparently because I asked instead of them just doing it as the normal procedure it's now a write up.
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11-21-2019 | 06:59 PM
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This is 135. I've been working for a couple of air ambulance outfits and in 2 of them I was responsible for filling the O2. I changed to a new company this year and they have maintenance do it. But I was never told to write it up. It's actually one of the mechanics daily jobs to refill the tanks on both the med bed and the crew so it never has a need for me to ask or write it up. I beat them to doing my preflight one day and found it down so I asked for a top off and apparently because I asked instead of them just doing it as the normal procedure it's now a write up.
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