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Old 02-01-2011, 06:25 AM
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as far as i know the e145 is more weight restricted than the crj2.

ExpreeJets 145s are rarely weight restricted. The XR model is never weight restricted and on the LR it's extremely rare. Out of our 240 ERJ's, the only jets we have that are weight restricted are EP's (we have 30) out of IAH on short routes. The ORD gate agents seem to love us because we aren't weight restricted. Just want to correct your misconception
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does anyone know fuel burn comparisons with crj2 and e145?
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does anyone know fuel burn comparisons with crj2 and e145?
Don't know but I would guess the 145 might burn a little less since it is skinnier. But engine and wing design plays a role too. I would assume the wings are very similar performance-wise.
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ExpreeJets 145s are rarely weight restricted. The XR model is never weight restricted and on the LR it's extremely rare. Out of our 240 ERJ's, the only jets we have that are weight restricted are EP's (we have 30) out of IAH on short routes.
Mesa's EMB 145LR's were weight restricted more often than "extremely rare". It is likely that XJ has a higher MLW for their LR's than Mesa (the restriction that always got the Mesa ERJ's). What was Mesa's LR MLW?

MLW restrictions were an issue for Mesa ERJ's somewhat regularly, but particularly when an alternate was required. Anyone who depended on Mesa for a jumpseat got to know this, though I've been denied a Skywest CRJ-700 jumpseat from DEN-DRO before due to weight too (thanks for the ride, Lynx!).

On the fuel burn issue, I've seen EMB 145's with the AE3007-A1 engine burning less than 2000 lbs per hour at cruise (total, so less than 1000 per side), which is a very small number. I'd imagine a CRJ-200, being heavier, burns more, but can't say for sure.
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Mesa's EMB 145LR's were weight restricted more often than "extremely rare". It is likely that XJ has a higher MLW for their LR's than Mesa (the restriction that always got the Mesa ERJ's). What was Mesa's LR MLW?
Mesa/Freedom 145s
MRW 48,722
MTOW 48,501
MLW 42,549


Yup, many issues mainly during the winter with MLW
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there is a mod available that brings LW up in the 44-45 range
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there is a mod available that brings LW up in the 44-45 range
Correct, there is. Mesa did not purchase that mod.
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Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
On the fuel burn issue, I've seen EMB 145's with the AE3007-A1 engine burning less than 2000 lbs per hour at cruise (total, so less than 1000 per side), which is a very small number. I'd imagine a CRJ-200, being heavier, burns more, but can't say for sure.
We normally burn around 1300lbs a side in cruse at FL36/37.

1000 a side would be if we were holding or cruse for around .65 Mach. I am curious though.. What is the burn for a CRJ200 at FL36/37??

Mesa/Freedom 145s
MRW 48,722
MTOW 48,501
MLW 42,549

ExpressJet 145 LR's
MTOW 49,823
MLW 43,651

XR's
MTOW 53,131
MLW 44,092
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This was moved from the Mesa Bankruptcy thread in the Regional forum.
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