Question for Boeing pilots
#15
I don't know how much more input the "pilot group" could have had in the design engineering of the B-777. United was the launch customer and there were at least three meetings held by Boeing with groups of pilots from several carriers to solicit design input. Apparently, Boeing listened and after two tours of duty on "the Triple 7", I can say it's the best flying and most comfortable aircraft I've ever flown. That includes the Airbus, and several MD products.
I agree with #3. The seat pitch and width in the 737 leaves something to be desired. I would also like to see transport category aircraft have an AOA on all aircraft.
Interesting how many people have opinions on Boeing vs. Airbus who have never flown one or the other. I guess sitting in the jumpseat for hundreds of hours is indicitative of how an aircraft handles. In that context, let me offer my opinion of the Concorde (in which I did ride on the jumpseat).
Go figure....and G'Luck Mates
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Seat pitch is determined by the airline. It is related to legroom and has nothing to do with width.
You could be on the 320 and have 18" wide seat with pitch of 30 inches. You could also be on the 737 and have 17" wide seat with pitch of 34 inches.
#17
Width and seat pitch are totally unrelated. The width is just that; width.
Seat pitch is determined by the airline. It is related to legroom and has nothing to do with width.
You could be on the 320 and have 18" wide seat with pitch of 30 inches. You could also be on the 737 and have 17" wide seat with pitch of 34 inches.
Seat pitch is determined by the airline. It is related to legroom and has nothing to do with width.
You could be on the 320 and have 18" wide seat with pitch of 30 inches. You could also be on the 737 and have 17" wide seat with pitch of 34 inches.
BTW, I'm well aware of what the "width" of a seat is and what the "pitch" is. I should have been more specific in my response to FAULTPUSH.
G'Luck to you Mate
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You can measure it any way your little heart wants to. The overall "comfort" level in the coach cabin of a 737 is below that of most Airbus aircraft coach cabins in the view of many surveyed passengers and most pilots who get stuck "in the back".
BTW, I'm well aware of what the "width" of a seat is and what the "pitch" is. I should have been more specific in my response to FAULTPUSH.
G'Luck to you Mate
BTW, I'm well aware of what the "width" of a seat is and what the "pitch" is. I should have been more specific in my response to FAULTPUSH.
G'Luck to you Mate

Funny, the Boeing twin aisles are wider seat than the Airbus twin aisles, but the opposite is true on single aisles.
#19
- Can the emergency crew escape hatch be opened in flight on the 747, and when it is advisable to do so?
- Why was pilot comfort an afterthought on Boeing aircraft until the 757 (727, 737, 747 = loud, cramped cockpit with uncomfortable seats - and yes, the 747 cockpit is cramped, despite the aircraft being huge)
If you could change 3 things on Boeing airplanes, what would they be?
- better noise reduction (the seals, or simply the volume of the pressurization system, whatever MD did, copy it).
- more comfortable seats
- the other stuff guys have pointed out here (dial-a-flap and an AOA are both good ones)
What's the best thing about Boeing airplanes in your view?
#20
- Can the emergency crew escape hatch be opened in flight on the 747, and when it is advisable to do so?
- Why was pilot comfort an afterthought on Boeing aircraft until the 757 (727, 737, 747 = loud, cramped cockpit with uncomfortable seats - and yes, the 747 cockpit is cramped, despite the aircraft being huge)
- better noise reduction (the seals, or simply the volume of the pressurization system, whatever MD did, copy it).
- more comfortable seats
- the other stuff guys have pointed out here (dial-a-flap and an AOA are both good ones)
Pilot-first design philosophy. The yoke and thrust levers, for instance. A side stick and a tray table are vastly superior in comfort and convenience. However, the ability to physically monitor the control inputs of the other pilot or the autopilot through a yoke is a higher priority. The TL's also need to physically move, which Boeing does (vs. Airbus). The plane just is a joy to fly - isn't that why we do this job, instead of sitting behind a desk?
Joe
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