Help, I can't land the CRJ700
07-02-2012, 09:20 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Red97Vette
I grease them on fairly consistently with minimum float. To do this, at 50' start a slow and smooth throttle reduction, so that when the 10' call comes you are at idle. While pulling the power back slowly and smoothly start slowly pitching up as well.
If you're on speed, idle thrust at 50' is bad juju IMO.
07-02-2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Golden Bear
It's not the slats that make the diffence in the smoothness of the landing, though the pitch attitude is quite different, it's the straight-struts vs. trailing link gear.
200: idle at 50' and continuous round out till touchdown, hard back pressure as soon as the mains touch.
700: easy round out beginning at 30', don't touch the thrust levers until 10', smooth reduction timed for idle at wheel touchdown, fly the nose gear onto the runway prior to reverse.
200: idle at 50' and continuous round out till touchdown, hard back pressure as soon as the mains touch.
700: easy round out beginning at 30', don't touch the thrust levers until 10', smooth reduction timed for idle at wheel touchdown, fly the nose gear onto the runway prior to reverse.
Since there are about to be 70 more of these in Delta paint, hopefully someone from the recipient airline will read this and spead the word.
07-02-2012, 09:46 AM
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The following has worked consistently on every jet (4) and turboprop (5) I have ever flown.
At 30 feet, on speed, begin a thrust reduction timed to reach idle at or near touchdown while at the same time increasing pitch just enough to slow the descent without stopping it. You will land on the 1000' markers at Vref every time.
Once in a while you may even impress the passengers, which of course is a secondary consideration to "in the touchdown zone on speed." Or is it?
At 30 feet, on speed, begin a thrust reduction timed to reach idle at or near touchdown while at the same time increasing pitch just enough to slow the descent without stopping it. You will land on the 1000' markers at Vref every time.
Once in a while you may even impress the passengers, which of course is a secondary consideration to "in the touchdown zone on speed." Or is it?
07-02-2012, 09:49 AM
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Our POH says to start walking them back at 50'.
I like flight idle at 30' the fly the airplane. Holding power till 10' or touchdown chews up a lot of runway. Keeping power in till the flare will not guarantee a smooth landing.
I like flight idle at 30' the fly the airplane. Holding power till 10' or touchdown chews up a lot of runway. Keeping power in till the flare will not guarantee a smooth landing.
07-02-2012, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Haha. I love the "props will make you a better pilot" posts.
07-02-2012, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Haha. I love the "props will make you a better pilot" posts.
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