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Old 07-02-2012 | 08:24 AM
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Default Help, I can't land the CRJ700

A while back, got hired at a commuter airline flying CRJs. Somehow, I can roll the no leading edge slats CRJ200 on every time.

The 700 I just started flying is a different story.

Any tips greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-02-2012 | 08:30 AM
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It's not the slats that make the diffence in the smoothness of the landing, though the pitch attitude is quite different, it's the straight-struts vs. trailing link gear.

200: idle at 50' and continuous round out till touchdown, hard back pressure as soon as the mains touch.

700: easy round out beginning at 30', don't touch the thrust levers until 10', smooth reduction timed for idle at wheel touchdown, fly the nose gear onto the runway prior to reverse.
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Old 07-02-2012 | 08:32 AM
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Try the autoland!
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Old 07-02-2012 | 08:36 AM
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Thanks. If I induce a float that has the mains 6 inches of the ground, will a slight reduction in pitch help roll it on?
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Old 07-02-2012 | 08:40 AM
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Thanks. If I induce a float that has the mains 6 inches of the ground, will a slight reduction in pitch help roll it on?
In my experience, no: it will cause the plane to pivot around the center of lift and drive the mains into the runway.

Correction for a floater is to maintain pitch and slightly increase back pressure as you feel it begins to sink. The 700 is really hard to salvage a smooth landing on if you blow it entering ground effect, the 200 (and even the 900) not so much.
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Old 07-02-2012 | 09:04 AM
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Wow this is actually a refreshing thread on this site. Sorry I dont have anything else to add.
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Old 07-02-2012 | 09:07 AM
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You should have flown a Dash-8 before jumping in to RJ's. . .
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Old 07-02-2012 | 09:07 AM
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Man, I was so hoping you were posting this from the inflight internet and we needed to talk you down.
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Old 07-02-2012 | 09:13 AM
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I grease them on fairly consistently with minimum float. To do this, at 50' start a slow and smooth throttle reduction, so that when the 10' call comes you are at idle. While pulling the power back slowly and smoothly start slowly pitching up as well. You have to be on GS and speed for this to really work, if your fast or high it usually ends up with a thud. If you are just starting to pull the power back at 10' you will easily be at the end of the touch down zone of the runway when the mains hit and landing long, though this technique does ensure an easier smooth landing. I dont like it because its way too easy for float for days. Bad news when landing at key west, and places like that.

for the 900 I'll reduce the throttles at around 30' as opposed to 50' on the 700.
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Old 07-02-2012 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Golden Bear
It's not the slats that make the diffence in the smoothness of the landing, though the pitch attitude is quite different, it's the straight-struts vs. trailing link gear.

200: idle at 50' and continuous round out till touchdown, hard back pressure as soon as the mains touch.

700: easy round out beginning at 30', don't touch the thrust levers until 10', smooth reduction timed for idle at wheel touchdown, fly the nose gear onto the runway prior to reverse.
Spot on! This is exactly how I do it. Give it some time. Finess and technique come with time.
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