Autopilot at 30,000 ft and higher?
05-07-2016, 02:15 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
He's clueless.
I agree. He claims to be a pilot btw and made a bunch of noise about his experience but I never asked him what exactly it involved. Anyway, when I challenged him to come either here or pprune, he made all kinds of bs excuses. obviously one of those blusterboy posers.
05-07-2016, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mako88sb
Having a bit of an argument with someone that seems to think the following:
"Ask any airline pilot why it's necessary to have automation at 30,000 feet. They'll tell you that humans lack the dexterity to fly at that altitude, due to thin air."
Took a bit of back and forthing and now he relented a bit with this:
"So let me qualify my remarks about needing automation at altitude:
Today, yes, planes with fly-by-wire can fly manual at 30,000 feet."
He's still adamant that manual flight above 30,000 feet without fly-by-wire can only be done with automation.
I've challenged him to post on a forum like this but he's reluctant to do so. Seems pretty silly I know but it be great to hear from people who do this for a living. No sense bringing up anything about military flying since he'll just brush it off with how they say and do what they are told.
"Ask any airline pilot why it's necessary to have automation at 30,000 feet. They'll tell you that humans lack the dexterity to fly at that altitude, due to thin air."
Took a bit of back and forthing and now he relented a bit with this:
"So let me qualify my remarks about needing automation at altitude:
Today, yes, planes with fly-by-wire can fly manual at 30,000 feet."
He's still adamant that manual flight above 30,000 feet without fly-by-wire can only be done with automation.
I've challenged him to post on a forum like this but he's reluctant to do so. Seems pretty silly I know but it be great to hear from people who do this for a living. No sense bringing up anything about military flying since he'll just brush it off with how they say and do what they are told.
05-07-2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
He's wrong. I've hand flown my non flyby wire- non automated multi-engine turboprop at 30k+ ft across some real ****ty parts of the world.
Just want to make sure it's okay with everybody first. He hasn't had anybody else from the hoaxhead crowd chiming in with support so I don't think there would be a sudden influx of conspiratards invading this site.
05-08-2016, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mako88sb
I agree. He claims to be a pilot btw and made a bunch of noise about his experience but I never asked him what exactly it involved. Anyway, when I challenged him to come either here or pprune, he made all kinds of bs excuses. obviously one of those blusterboy posers.
05-08-2016, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
I've hand flown a 727 at 42,000 feet. Definitely not a fly by wire aircraft. Autopilots are normally used in cruise because hand flying becomes tedious after a while. Nothing to do with "dexterity" or "thin air."
05-08-2016, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Autopilot kicked off on the CRJ once at 34,000; airplane instantly became inverted and uncontrollable until the captain managed to select the a/p back on. Scariest 16 seconds of my life.
05-08-2016, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
How in the world were you able to get the three holer to FL420? Like sitting in a bathtub on top of a flagpole.
