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Old 06-14-2007, 10:41 AM
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Exceed it. Put test pilot on your resume. Submit to airline. Tell interviewers what your demonstrated number was. Get hired. High five! :-)
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The picture is photoshoped, the left mains are chocked.

The speed is a guideline, but before doing anything really stupid, think about how they'll word the NTSB report.
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I think you should expect to be able to do more than the demonstrated, especially since a 172 is only at 15kts, at least out here in the west. Our field elevations around here are rarely below 5000 feet and winds rarely below 12-15kts steady. My last cross country I landed with a 90 degree 16kt gusting 22. You get used to it...although it took me awhile to get comfortable with crosswinds , I had issues with giving thatmuch rudder in the flare to keep centered, just felt WRONG.

I guess the max would theoretically be the wingtip touching the ground, or the rudder not having enough authority to align it for the bank angle killing the drift. Assuming you wanted no sideloads on the gear of course.

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It all depends on what the definition of "is" is.
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Originally Posted by POPA View Post
It all depends on what the definition of "is" is.
laughed soo hard when i read this

so true so true.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by wickedsprint View Post
I guess the max would theoretically be the wingtip touching the ground, or the rudder not having enough authority to align it for the bank angle killing the drift. Assuming you wanted no sideloads on the gear of course.
You'll run out of rudder control prior to aileron control. Hence when at altitude the forward slip demo you steer via the ailerons with full rudder deflection. So that is the ultimate limitation(or if you are in a twin combine rudder with some differential power).
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer View Post
You'll run out of rudder control prior to aileron control. Hence when at altitude the forward slip demo you steer via the ailerons with full rudder deflection. So that is the ultimate limitation(or if you are in a twin combine rudder with some differential power).

Not true in every airplane. In a low wing, you'll likely hit the aileron limit first due to ground clearance issues. Prime example..KC135...18 inches under the inboard engines.
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I have landed a 172 with a 45 degree 29Kt cross wind it is a work out but you can do it. wouldnt recommend it.
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It's not a limitation.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
If it says "demonstrated", it is not a limitation (unless your company says it is).
I agree. By putting the number in the "limitations" section of their FAA-approved Flight Manual, companies have done just that, even if they use the manufacturer's phrase "max demonstrated". It now becomes a limitation.

A similar example involves gross weight. If I remember correctly from the Douglas ground school 20 years ago, Delta bought an MD-88 version which had been certified at about 160k MTOW, but had our certificate state just under 150k (for lower landing fees), so the lower number became totally binding on us. Delta (or, if the airplanes are sold, the new owner) could re-certify up to the higher MTOW (for a fee, of course), and then that would become the limitation.

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