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Old 01-30-2018, 06:12 PM
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You guys forget how much s### mother delta took from mesa. I wouldnt worry
Yep and Delta dropped them like a bad habit when they didn't need Mesa anymore. Same with TSH.
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:17 PM
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There were always rumblings of Delta trying to buy back Compass from TSH starting in about 2014 and as the rumors go Hulas said you take them all or nothing. A few years later now and Delta is completely fed up with HK, at their first opportunity they took their planes back from Compass, yeah sucked for us Compass pilots but it fueled everyone's wet dream of escaping the hell that is TSH. I can picture Delta being ok with Republic buying TSH and managing or merging the new certificates, the other way around makes absolutely no sense. In my wildest fantasies, Delta buys CPZ or CPZ+Gojet and Republic ends up with TSA... but that's a pipe dream.

The reality, for Gojet and Compass especially... is that those Delta planes are going back to Delta asap to be operated by Republic or Skywest and the CRJs going to Endeavor. HK must know this and he must know it's time to get out while he still can.
Yep pretty much what I have heard. DL pushes and backs the deal, and TSA and Compass go to Republic, with Gojet going to Endeavor. We'll see what happens over the next few weeks. If this doesn't happen by mid February its probably not happening.
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:58 PM
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I believe that is your scheduling software correct? If indeed that is the case, republic spent two years with Sabre building Flica to work per our contract. So I doubt that we would switch unless IOCC is able to to PBS and SAP and all the bidding rules that goes along with both processes.
Lord I hope you guys are right. What I would do to have FLICA and Jepps back.
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Old 01-30-2018, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat View Post
Yep pretty much what I have heard. DL pushes and backs the deal, and TSA and Compass go to Republic, with Gojet going to Endeavor. We'll see what happens over the next few weeks. If this doesn't happen by mid February its probably not happening.
Doubt Gojet is going to Endeavor. Don’t forget they still fly for United. Delta will get their planes back as contracts run out and Rah will kill Gojet off eventually along with TSA later. I predict an all 175 airline along with TSA 145XRs until those run out.
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Old 01-30-2018, 07:57 PM
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Everyone would have to be one list, YX contract forbids otherwise.


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Tell that to the XJT guys....ask them how that turned out for them...
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:08 PM
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Tell that to the XJT guys....ask them how that turned out for them...
That got thrown out because SKW pilots could not be forced to be union, and thus integrated. You guys are all unionized to begin with. The question is: which union will you combine under. That could make the difference on who gets credit for what in the integration. ALPA guys could get virtually stapled if teamsters retain control for example. ALPA is more “fair.”
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That got thrown out because SKW pilots could not be forced to be union, and thus integrated. You guys are all unionized to begin with. The question is: which union will you combine under. That could make the difference on who gets credit for what in the integration. ALPA guys could get virtually stapled if teamsters retain control for example. ALPA is more “fair.”
Fortunately McCaskill Bond won't allow any kind of staple, but we will see where this goes if a merger happens. One thing in our favor is Republic needs all the pilots, so it will be in their interest to give us a reason to stay.
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4 View Post
Doubt Gojet is going to Endeavor. Don’t forget they still fly for United. Delta will get their planes back as contracts run out and Rah will kill Gojet off eventually along with TSA later. I predict an all 175 airline along with TSA 145XRs until those run out.
Well I should say I think the Gojet pilots and Delta planes will end up at Endeavor in the end, and the United 700s will be traded for 175s by Republic. I think we can all agree the Delta planes end up at Endeavor but the pilots would be the question. I don't see how you can move the Delta planes to Endeavor without the pilots. If Endeavor could staff them they would have been moved there long ago.
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Well I should say I think the Gojet pilots and Delta planes will end up at Endeavor in the end, and the United 700s will be traded for 175s by Republic. I think we can all agree the Delta planes end up at Endeavor but the pilots would be the question. I don't see how you can move the Delta planes to Endeavor without the pilots. If Endeavor could staff them they would have been moved there long ago.
Endeavor classes are full through June and they are turning down applicants as they are overwhelmed with applications. They are growing by a net 16 airplanes. They are taking on airframes from Expressjet without integrating their pilots other than hiring them as new hires.

The GoJet DL 700s are Delta owned but the 900’s are TSH owned, so it’ll be interesting to see how that plays out. The GJ United 700 fleet by itself would seem too small to be viable.
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Endeavor classes are full through June and they are turning down applicants as they are overwhelmed with applications. They are growing by a net 16 airplanes. They are taking on airframes from Expressjet without integrating their pilots other than hiring them as new hires.

The GoJet DL 700s are Delta owned but the 900’s are TSH owned, so it’ll be interesting to see how that plays out. The GJ United 700 fleet by itself would seem too small to be viable.
The Gojet United 700 operation was viable by itself for several years before Gojet started flying for Delta. Delta has wanted the ex Comair Gojet 700s at Endeavor for a while, but Endeavor couldn't staff them. If this merger happens we will see if the pilots move with the airplanes. Endeavor is filling classes with Expressjet guys right now but there will be an end to that pool of pilots eventually as other carriers match Endeavors payrates. But the fact remains that Delta could have moved some of the Comair 700s to Endeavor when they moved the Compass 170s to Republic but didn't do it because Endeavor couldn't staff them.
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