Rotor2prop

Delta wants their aircraft back to put where they want and all the pilots transferred to benefit their regional feed. If the AA WOs get their stuff together and offer compensation similar to EDV then that flying will be pulled from TSH anyways. If the staffing at the regional level gets as critical as predicted Delta would gladly pay the contract penalty to bring the pilots flying AA and United feed to support them. This is going to be a telling year for seeing the future of how the legacy carriers plan to deal with the lack of regional level pilots.

I know we’ve heard this kind of situation is about to happen several times in the past 10-15 years, this time it’s happening!! How severe it will be is anyone’s guess! Projections this year alone predict close to 40% of current regional pilots will be moving up to Legacies, LCCs, Cargo, etc. Not to mention that a lot of regional level lifers are retiring.

gojo

I disagree with you. Look at what’s happening with the Delta side of Expressjet. They are transferring aircraft only. I believe the pilots only go with the planes via a acquisition or merger. Why would Delta do that if the contract term is about to expire? Doesn’t make sense. It’s already evident in the regional industry that pilots will go where there is quick upgrades and growth. Endeavor’s contract will help too. Why would they want to mess with seniority integration and fences? And I for sure don’t see them messing with certificates that have more than one mainline partner on it

Rotor2prop

I think Delta knew exactly what would happen with Expressjet. It appears that the vast majority of EDV classes are filled into summer with CRJ pilots from Expressjet. They knew it would happen when they established bases where the all the Expressjet flying was lost. All of TSH contracts are not about to expire. I don’t think full list integration will happen. Maybe Compass but I think GoJet certificate will basically disappear as the aircraft are transferred. Once announced pilots will flee like mad just like what happened at Expressjet for the most part. The actual TSA operation is the wildcard that no one knows but I figure it will continue as usual for now. Delta may be primarily funding it but it appears that AA and Delta are becoming business friends. It was just announced that they have partnered with each other to cross book passengers to get them home during weather events or airport closures.

Of course I’m just guessing so pretty much anyone’s opinion could be the right answer. I think it’s safe to say that this appears to be the beginnings of the great regional consolidation of 2018.

gojo

Yes , they did. And I’m pretty sure that they are counting on the same thing with GoJet. Compass is still a wild card since Endeavor doesn’t have a E175 program. But it appears that they have circumvented the requirement to take the pilots with the planes by not renewing the contract and moving the planes.

Knobcrk1

It’s still cheaper for a Regional operation vs mainline regardless of pilot costs. Not saying there’s gong to be 200 dollars but you underestimate how much you’re really worth because you buy the company propaganda. They can pay you 200, easily 100, they just don’t have to.

NeverHome

I think you have misunderstood me. Im not talking about Delta buying any of these companies, nor reaquiring the AC. Rather, another company (maybe republic) aquiring these companies for a turnkey operation. Could be mesa! Just because somebody “saw” Hulas or Leach in indy doesnt mean a whole lot. If indeed there is anything going on, there will certainly be some suprise twists

gojo

That would be a risky investment when Delta owns a lot of those planes

NeverHome

I dont think so. Here is my logic:

1) Delta wont fly the planes themselves, so gotta be a regional.
2) Which regional will be the one that gets the planes? Whatever one will do it for the lowest rate vs on time performance.
3)If were talking 175s, who already flys them? Republic, Skywest, Mesa.

So if 175s for instance could be reliably flown, for a low cost, does Delta really care who does it? To a small extent sure, but at the end of the day, that’s merely a tie breaker.

Now,I can easily see delta being cool with TSH transfering Compass to Republic. If it strengthens Republic, which Delta has a stake in, It would be a good idea.

Just my thoughts of course. Again who really knows?

Tpinks

Leach and Hulas were there for a week checking out various aspects of the business. Tell me, how many times has Doug Parker ever been seen at Delta HQ or United HQ randomly looking at internal operating practices of the competing airline?

Our Union has said we are expanding yet we have no aircraft on order. Our LOA includes a huge a change for merger and acquisitions. We have added MRJ7 rates to our scale. All of our NC have signed multiple NDAs and when asked about the subject of M&A's refuse to talk about it. TSH executives have been spotted at our HQ over a period of time. Our CEO is done by the end of spring with no new executive team having been announced to replace him. All of this is just on the Republic side. Now add in all the rumors that have been heard on the TSH side. Why would it be hard to believe something is in the works?

Eseloco954

What’s flying with the captain who called his buddy up on speakerphone and said there are CRJ rates in the new agreement as well. Any truth to this?